galleygirl
Mar 28 2006, 03:22 AM
MY TULIPS ARE UP, MY TULIPS ARE UP!!!!!!
Sorry, I never planted tulips before...I planted them at Fred, the BF's house, last October, at the end of the bulb season, and they're two inches or so. I'm very excited!
Abbylovi
Mar 28 2006, 02:11 PM
Congrats! Will Fred get a vegetable garden again this year?
galleygirl
Mar 28 2006, 02:57 PM
Yes, I think I'm going to start the arugula and lettuce seeds inside this week. I'm mostly going to go for greens, and tomatoes, and the Egyptian onions that I planted last year should seed this year.
tanabutler
Mar 29 2006, 04:32 AM
| QUOTE (Scorched Palate @ Feb 23 2006, 07:08 PM) |
Well, today's been fun.
We got the estimates back from the landscaper and the deck guy. Adding in our designer's fees, we're at 230% of budget.
We'd really hoped to start work this month. We're gutted, and we're living with a yard that looks like a war zone... and presumably now will be for months, because at this stage we don't even believe that we have a buildable design.
Needless to say, we are VERY pissed at our designer. |
Aw, that completely, completely sucks. I'm so sorry for your troubles.
(I know some really good people here, who might be able to advise. People you can trust. Email or PM if you want to.)
joiei
Mar 29 2006, 01:44 PM
We are putting the tomatoes in the ground today in "Wall-o-waters" until mid april when the last frost is past. Fresh herbs are not far behind.
Scorched Palate
Mar 30 2006, 07:13 PM
We trimmed the overblown design by ourselves (we fired the designer) and have contracted directly with the deck/fence carpenter and the landscape/hardscape installer.
The carpenter started work this week, though it's been slow going because of the rain.
GG Mora
Mar 30 2006, 07:58 PM
Yesterday afternoon, I pressed our mini indoor greenhouse into action and put tomato, eggplant, and pepper seeds into dirt (in a single flat). It's not much, but this is how it starts, and I can already feel the weight if winter lifting.
flyfish
Mar 30 2006, 09:26 PM
Just waiting for the right combination of free time and weather conditions so we can use the dormant oil spray on the fruit trees. Possibly this weekend... fingers crossed.
I'll have to check out the rhubarb on the way to the apple tree...
Fly
guajolote
Mar 30 2006, 09:48 PM
my crocuses have bloomed. because of the weird microclimate in my backyard they are 2 weeks later than everyone elses in the neighborhood, but i'm still happy about it.
jschyun
Apr 1 2006, 04:04 AM
What kind of tomatoes are you guys putting in? Since I have no garden I must live vicariously.
galleygirl
Apr 1 2006, 02:56 PM
| QUOTE (jschyun @ Apr 1 2006, 12:04 AM) |
| What kind of tomatoes are you guys putting in? Since I have no garden I must live vicariously. |
I'm going for Purple Cherokees and Black Princes again, then need to find one more that yields better. I planted something called a Roma II last year that was TOTALLY flavorless...
omnivorette
Apr 1 2006, 02:57 PM
In Switzerland, I was given a gift of packages of seeds for 4 varieties of mache (which I love love love).
We want to plant them upstate, but we're only at the house one weekend out of every 3, approximately.
Whaddaya think about that?
jschyun
Apr 1 2006, 05:20 PM
| QUOTE (galleygirl @ Apr 1 2006, 02:56 PM) |
| QUOTE (jschyun @ Apr 1 2006, 12:04 AM) | | What kind of tomatoes are you guys putting in? Since I have no garden I must live vicariously. |
I'm going for Purple Cherokees and Black Princes again, then need to find one more that yields better. I planted something called a Roma II last year that was TOTALLY flavorless...
|
Yeah, I haven't had much luck with the red romas either. Then again, I've only tried a couple of them. I do have a couple of seeds for this one variety called Amish Paste which is supposed to be great.
Black Krim was pretty productive for me. I really missed having tomato seedlings this year. *sigh*
memesuze
Apr 1 2006, 07:47 PM
| QUOTE (omnivorette @ Apr 1 2006, 08:57 AM) |
In Switzerland, I was given a gift of packages of seeds for 4 varieties of mache (which I love love love).
We want to plant them upstate, but we're only at the house one weekend out of every 3, approximately.
Whaddaya think about that? |
although I've never grown mache, I'm leery of leaving the plants to the vicissitudes of rainfall for so long a period.
would it be possible to plant a bunch of them in one of those disposable coolers filled with dirt with drain holes punched in the bottom with a screw-driver and carry it upstate? Jaymes swore by this arrangement for portable/deck-bound tomatoes - since I don't know your city living site to know whether you have any space like a balcony or deck with enough sun/space to grow them, I may be totally off-base here, and all you really want to do is grow something and the only place you have access to outside sun is upstate.
tanabutler
Apr 1 2006, 09:11 PM
| QUOTE (jschyun @ Mar 31 2006, 08:04 PM) |
| What kind of tomatoes are you guys putting in? Since I have no garden I must live vicariously. |
Orange Russian 117 (my tomato grower's very favorite), Black Krim, Julia Child, Marianne's Peace, Bordo (her favorite black), Chuck's Yellow (her favorite, from her tomato grower back East), Chocolate, Early Girl, Green Zebra, Black Krim, and (of course), Sungold (the ONLY cherry we'll ever grow.)
These are the Chocolate ones: I brought some back from the Ferry Plaza market, and Cynthia saved out the seeds.

They're delicious.
More to come, but not until we plant more. It's a soggy mess out there.
jschyun
Apr 2 2006, 12:45 AM
| QUOTE (tanabutler @ Apr 1 2006, 09:11 PM) |
Orange Russian 117 (my tomato grower's very favorite), Black Krim, Julia Child, Marianne's Peace, Bordo (her favorite black), Chuck's Yellow (her favorite, from her tomato grower back East), Chocolate, Early Girl, Green Zebra, Black Krim, and (of course), Sungold (the ONLY cherry we'll ever grow.)
These are the Chocolate ones: I brought some back from the Ferry Plaza market, and Cynthia saved out the seeds.
They're delicious.
More to come, but not until we plant more. It's a soggy mess out there. |
Ooh.
Are you talking about Cherokee Chocolate? I heard that was really good but havent' grown it.
My friend is growing some Sungolds for me and Black Cherry. Black Cherries are so good when it's early in the season. They kind of peter out after a while though.
Thanks guys! I needed that.
galleygirl
Apr 2 2006, 04:27 PM
Oooh, I forgot the sungolds! Possibly, because I ate them as quickly as I picked them, so they never actually made it into the house....
lovelynugget
Apr 2 2006, 10:43 PM
I have a black thumb. I kill plants, despite all the love and attention I give them.
But motivated by all this nice weather, I recruited my green-thumbed friend Liz and her boyfriend Don and we hit the dirt-filled empty dump my neighbors and I call a front yard. We went to the garden center and my friends picked out peat mulch, tools, gloves and various plants. It wasn't very expensive, under $100. Then we spent two good hours tilling the soil, pulling up weeds, throwing out rocks and other debris. Liz raided the yard across the street and scavenged some old bricks. She used them to border the dirt morass. Then we planted bulbs, flowers seedlings, and vegetable plantings. It all felt very "Little House on the Prarie" to me as I am a city girl and haven't had a yard in NYC for many many years.
Now with job accomplished I can't believe how pretty it all is. Nothing is grown yet. Everything is still in seedlings and little sprouts. But in 3 weeks (acc to Don) the tomato plants will shoot up and I will have to get trellises to hold them up. The impatiens will spread into nice big clumps of color. The Lily of the Valley bulbs will sprout and give off wonderful scent. By mid-summer I will have pretty flowers to see and plump tomatoes, strawberries and peppers to pick.
I can't believe my sense of accomplishment. I'm excited to watch my garden grow!
tanabutler
Apr 2 2006, 11:39 PM
| QUOTE (jschyun @ Apr 1 2006, 05:45 PM) |
Ooh.
Are you talking about Cherokee Chocolate? I heard that was really good but havent' grown it.
My friend is growing some Sungolds for me and Black Cherry. Black Cherries are so good when it's early in the season. They kind of peter out after a while though.
Thanks guys! I needed that. |
The sign at the market just called them "Chocolate Heirloom Tomatoes" from "Chateau Fresno" CCOF:
Abbylovi
Apr 3 2006, 03:08 PM
| QUOTE (omnivorette @ Apr 1 2006, 09:57 AM) |
In Switzerland, I was given a gift of packages of seeds for 4 varieties of mache (which I love love love).
We want to plant them upstate, but we're only at the house one weekend out of every 3, approximately.
Whaddaya think about that? |
Do you have a lot of deer up there? If so, I think they might go after the mache.
Leslie
Apr 3 2006, 04:19 PM
We've grown mache in the garden. It grows like a cover crop unattended. Infact some places sell it as part of a cover crop. Try it.
Scorched Palate
Apr 4 2006, 07:16 AM

A rare sunny still from the construction DeckCam

The photos will get more interesting soon (I hope!)
Scorched Palate
Apr 10 2006, 07:16 PM
We picked out the gigantic rocks for the rock garden:

and the underpinnings of the lower deck are done:

...which means that the landscapers are starting today -- yippee!! The carpenter will be back after the landscaping is done to build the dog run, add the deck railing, and lay the decking.
Alex
Apr 12 2006, 12:25 AM
Hi, it looks good.
I notice that the posts in the second pic, SP, are set on concrete blocks- is this because of possible termite or rot problems?
Pardon me if you know this trick already, but a great way to get those rocks old and mossy-looking, assuming you like things old and mossy, is to pour the rinsing water from your rice over them before you steam it.
Youhurt also works fine, but it seems rather a waste of good yoghurt, I think..
Scorched Palate
Apr 12 2006, 01:00 AM
Hi Alex... welcome to Mouthfuls

| QUOTE (Alex @ Apr 11 2006, 05:25 PM) |
| I notice that the posts in the second pic, SP, are set on concrete blocks- is this because of possible termite or rot problems? |
Yup, you can't put wood directly on the ground because of rot and/or termite infestation.
All of the big pilings set on the above-ground piers are part of the existing upper-story deck. The new lower deck's short pilings are set into sunken concrete below ground level, and/or tube-shaped concrete forms. You can -kind of- see this in the photo from 4/4.
Edit to add: Here's a shot of what the yard looked like this morning, before the rain. The crew made really good headway yesterday, removing the tree stump, demolishing the concrete path (and recycling parts of it over in the dog run), leveling and grading the yard, amending the soil, and excavating the depression for the patio underlayment. Too bad the weather kept them away today.

For those of you keeping score with the plan upthread, we're looking south here, as seen from the upper deck.
pete ganz
Apr 12 2006, 01:55 AM
Can anyone recommend a good gardening book for beginners? Thanks.
Scorched Palate
Apr 12 2006, 03:06 PM
I love the Sunset Western Garden Book, if you happen to live west of the Rockies. (I think you're one of them-thar Easterners, though... they have a companion Northeastern edition, but I haven't used it.)
Gardening for Dummies is suprisingly well done.
pete ganz
Apr 12 2006, 05:05 PM
| QUOTE (Scorched Palate @ Apr 12 2006, 10:06 AM) |
I love the Sunset Western Garden Book, if you happen to live west of the Rockies. (I think you're one of them-thar Easterners, though... they have a companion Northeastern edition, but I haven't used it.)
Gardening for Dummies is suprisingly well done. |
Thanks very much. The American Horticultural Society encyclopedia looks good too...lots of pics!
flyfish
Apr 12 2006, 06:32 PM
| QUOTE (pete ganz @ Apr 11 2006, 08:55 PM) |
| Can anyone recommend a good gardening book for beginners? Thanks. |
Not books per se, and I haven't seen them, but I have heard the Rebecca's Garden DVD series is good.
http://www.rebeccasgarden.com/The DVDs are available at
Lee Valley Tools, among other places.
Actually any garden books available through Lee Valley are usually wonderful, whether for
flower gardening or
fruit and vegetable gardening.
(No, they didn't pay me to say this... )
Fly
Liza
Apr 14 2006, 12:17 PM
Pardon me if this has been covered before, but does anyone have a humane solution to a rabbit problem? We have a fabulous compost heap that provides supper for a lovely family of bunnies, but pretty soon we'll be putting crops in and I'm certain they rabbits will go for them.
Zoo doo, perhaps?
Abbylovi
Apr 14 2006, 01:44 PM
Liza
Apr 14 2006, 02:09 PM
Thank you!
FINALLY a chance to Google "dried fox urine".
Abbylovi
Apr 14 2006, 02:11 PM
tanabutler
Apr 16 2006, 01:23 AM
Cardoons and Thumbelina carrots have sprouted.


(Whoops. Resized photos and uploaded wrong code. Fixed now.)
Alex
Apr 16 2006, 03:42 AM
How do you serve the cardoons, tanabutler?
I tried growing them last year, and while they grew well, they seemed bland and rather insipid....
tanabutler
Apr 16 2006, 04:29 AM
| QUOTE (Alex @ Apr 15 2006, 08:42 PM) |
How do you serve the cardoons, tanabutler? I tried growing them last year, and while they grew well, they seemed bland and rather insipid.... |
Hi, Alex...so far, I've only been served cardoons, and haven't cooked them myself. But it was the cardoon soup at Boulette's Larder that I tasted last November that made me think it would be fun to grow some myself. It is a very pretty plant.

The chef at Boulette's Larder made a creamy soup from them, which maybe Suzanne F could deconstruct, as she did at our lunch.
I first tasted them at a farm I visited: they look like celery but tasted like artichokes. And the plants are very similar to artichoke plants. That's why I am hoping they will do well in our Mediterranean climate, as artichokes do.
Edit: I know where you live. On a map, that is: I've never been there.
Behemoth
Apr 16 2006, 05:03 AM
| QUOTE (Alex @ Apr 15 2006, 09:42 PM) |
How do you serve the cardoons, tanabutler? I tried growing them last year, and while they grew well, they seemed bland and rather insipid.... |
Bacon. Is there anything it can't do?
Alex
Apr 16 2006, 06:28 AM
...bacon and cardoons..? Now, there's a thought...
They seemed to be prone to mildew, here, but in a mediterranean climate such as exists here in the southern half of the country, they would probably thrive.
Liza
Apr 17 2006, 12:33 AM
Discovered most of the bulbs planted last fall (hyacinths and tulips) are up! Discussion is under way about new tomato supports, and we planted a gorgeous new azalea. Spring!
Rose
Apr 17 2006, 02:35 AM
Lovely little piece in today's Times about gardening, especially vegetables.
The $64 Tomato
Liza
Apr 21 2006, 09:57 PM
Dug up the side garden and layered 320 pounds of humus on top. Dug up the weeds sprouting where the vegetables will be. Planted a dozen dahlias. Not surprisingly, my back hurts.
omnivorette
Apr 21 2006, 09:58 PM
Humus? What is that in this context?
Scorched Palate
Apr 21 2006, 10:10 PM
QUOTE
A natural product consisting of composted wood, and leaf material that is best for sandy soils. Garden Humus adds organic matter to a depleted soil for new roots to mature.
omnivorette
Apr 21 2006, 10:15 PM
Thanks.
I assumed it was something like that, rather than Liza's new commercial falafel factory in the works.
rancho_gordo
Apr 21 2006, 10:22 PM
I thought it was a generic term for all composted material- as in this is what you get out of your compost: humus.
Scorched Palate
Apr 21 2006, 10:39 PM
I was copy-and-pasting from a soil-amendment company's site. I'm guessing what I pasted is just their specific formula.
GG Mora
Apr 30 2006, 08:40 PM
On this perfectly glorious authentically spring day, I planted lettuces, arugula, mache, cilantro, carrots and beets. My indoor tomato, pepper, eggplant and cauliflower seedlings are looking strong and happy.
Rail Paul
Apr 30 2006, 10:11 PM
QUOTE(GG Mora @ Apr 30 2006, 04:40 PM)

On this perfectly glorious authentically spring day, I planted lettuces, arugula, mache, cilantro, carrots and beets. My indoor tomato, pepper, eggplant and cauliflower seedlings are looking strong and happy.
Today was spectacular here in NJ, as well.
Not a cloud in the sky, 70 degrees F, moderate breeze about 10 mph out of the southwest. Apples and cherries in blossom.
About as perfect as one could imagine.
Did you plant the cilantro as seeds or seedlings?
GG Mora
Apr 30 2006, 10:40 PM
QUOTE(Rail Paul @ Apr 30 2006, 06:11 PM)

Did you plant the cilantro as seeds or seedlings?
Everything I planted today was seed.
9lives
Apr 30 2006, 10:46 PM
We planted lettuce last week and it's doing great. I've never had much success with cilantro which is a shame because I really like to use it

3 1/2 whiskey barrels of various lettuces.
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