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#256 Anthony Bonner

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Posted 04 May 2009 - 06:12 PM

QUOTE(Silly Disciple @ Jun 19 2008, 03:40 PM) View Post
all of these need reservations:

Rias de Galicia
Abac
Hisop
Sauc
Cinc Sentits
Artkuisine
Gresca
Coure
El Glop

I don't know what Ateneu Gastronomic is. And I don't think El Glop is in the same category as the others you mention.

Paco Meralgo you need a reservation, but they are weird about them. You can be there early on a slow day (ie Tue-Thur) and will get seated almost for sure, or after a short wait. But by all means give it a try with the resv if you end up going there.

Is it reasonable to make day of reservations at most of these places?

Thinking specifially of Paco Meralgo on a Sunday, Gresca, Coure, Rias de Galicia, Hisop, Artkuisine
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Posted 04 May 2009 - 07:06 PM

Hisop is pretty small, so while it's not always packed you may not be able to get in on the same day. Paco Meralgo not quite as small but it is one of the only Sunday options. Ymmv with the rest.
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#258 Anthony Bonner

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Posted 05 May 2009 - 02:33 PM

QUOTE(Orik @ May 4 2009, 03:06 PM) View Post
Hisop is pretty small, so while it's not always packed you may not be able to get in on the same day. Paco Meralgo not quite as small but it is one of the only Sunday options. Ymmv with the rest.

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Posted 05 May 2009 - 04:56 PM

definitely get resy for Gresca, even for lunch. and what Orik said. Hisop was pretty empty at lunch so we were able to get a table but it is small.
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#260 Wilfrid1

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Posted 05 May 2009 - 05:25 PM

We went to Paco Meralgo on a Sunday evening, with an advance reservation, and it was certainly needed. A line out the door by mid-evening. How far in advance you need to make it, I don't know.
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#261 SethG

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 03:00 AM

Just got back from Barcelona and we had a wonderful four days there. Great weather and great food, thanks to the Mouthfuls greatest hits we visited.

Cinq Sentis was our favorite dinner of the trip, with Hisop not far behind. Both restaurants offered the local/seasonal drill, with Cinq Sentis being more conservative in its approach-- neither restaurant tried to force savory/fishy ice cream on us. My memory of Cinq Sentis is dim after all the eating and drinking we did over the subsequent days (CS was on our first, jet-lagged night), but I do remember a couple of lovely preparations featuring fresh peas, a tender, delicate baby squid dish with a saffron sauce, and a suckling pig with apples in which the pig was cooked sous vide for 24 hours and then (thankfully) roasted to produce a crisp skin. We left the place thinking it had set a very high standard for our trip. Our favorite at Hisop was a dish that sounds gimmicky: foie gras "after eight," a play on the classic mint/chocolate candies. The dish featured a seared hunk of foie, in a beef jus, with some kind of mint puree and chocolate shavings on top. I feared I'd prefer it without all that crap on it, but actually I loved it, and so did my better half. We also really enjoyed the hake dish nux mentioned above and the cheese plate was outstanding.

We also tried the much more frankly experimental Commerc 24 and unfortunately we were confronted there with a cod foam that was paired with an artichoke ice cream. We found it inedible, but that dish was the exception. I was pretty blown away by some of the other dishes, especially the consomme that contained little airy bubbles that exploded with the flavor of quail egg, parmesan, and black truffle. I also really liked the foie gras mousse paired with the duck-flavored rice.

Our fourth dinner was at Paco Meralgo, and while I agree that it's a good Sunday option I think we weren't as taken with the place as most of the mouthfuls opinion leaders seem to be. It reminded me of an American tapas restaurant. Not really a bar, as a good tapas place should be, but rather a dinner destination at which tapas happens to be what you're eating, disguised as a bar. And the food, while often well-executed, lacked much imagination or interest. The bomba was good, and we had some tasty prawns. Other items were indifferent. One octopus dish was downright poor, with tough little pieces of octopus mixed in with watery onions. Is it unfair to describe Paco Meralgo as middling standard tapas fare? It was sometimes better than that. Nice atmosphere. Boisterous. Reasonably priced.

We hit Tapac 24, Quimet & Quimet, and Bar Mut for lunch. We liked many of the greatest hits items listed above at Tapac 24-- the ham & cheese with truffle was a favorite of mine. I loved everything about Quimet & Quimet; the tiny boxy bar space, the proprietor and his little dishes of stuff, and the way he constructs little sampling plates for you. A great place to spend an hour or two on your way over to Montjuic. And we both thought Bar Mut was a great find. It was my wife's favorite place of our trip. It too is a charming bar space, with surprisingly thoughtful food. We had an absolutely delicious shrimp dish, with barely-cooked runny egg and tiny, lacy fried potatoes. And a beautiful plate of suckling pig, pressed into a rectangle with a perfect strip of crispy skin on top, served with a pile of incredibly sweet caramelized shallots. I was surprised to come back to mouthfuls and find that Wilfrid considers Bar Mut roughly comparable to Paco Meralgo; we found it to have much more to offer. It's really close to La Pedrera, too, so it's a great place to have lunch after some Gaudi.

Speaking of Gaudi, in the nearly 11 years since we last visited Barcelona the Casa Batllo opened up to visitors, and boy is it worth a visit! Great audio guide too. Thanks to Wilf for the tip about the apartment you can now see at La Pedrera. That was also nice. We were pissed when we showed up at the Sagrada Familia to find that you can no longer walk up the stairs from the entrance level and explore the towers. You are instead forced to wait in line for an elevator. Once you take the elevator up, however, you can freely walk down and around the towers, so in the end we found it to be reasonably comparable to our previous visit.

We took a day trip to Montserrat, which I don't think I've seen mentioned here. This was very easy to do and it was lots of fun. The cable car ride up from the train station is a great vertiginous thrill, and there's a long hike to the highest point in the jagged, beautiful 10 km-long formation. The hike we chose is a little more than two hours round trip-- we packed a picnic lunch from the boqueria market and ate just below the peak, then walked back down. Some sections are paved, with steps, but most of it is a nice ridge trail, advertised as strenuous but really nothing any reasonably fit person can't easily manage. There are shorter hikes if you'd prefer them, all with wonderful views, and I'm told there's also a pretty nice basilica and a choir, neither of which we got around to checking out. You see there was a long hike, as I mentioned, and then as we returned from the hike we spotted a bar and then before we knew it it was time to catch the train...

Anyway, thanks again for all the tips.
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#262 Wilfrid1

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 04:11 PM

Thanks for the report. I've done the side trip to Monserrat three times, if memory serves. As you say, the real attraction lies up, beyond the basilica, with amazing views of the valley below.

I'm glad you liked Bar Mut. I think you were a little unlucky at Paco Meralgo; we had no poorly executed dishes there, and the quality of the ingredients - especially the seafood - lifted it way above a Casa Mono, although I do see what you mean about a New York style. Bar Mut is much more tipico.

I must say, I really dislike the Sagrada Familia in its current condition. Best to get a distant view of the wild spires from one of the hill-tops on the edge of town.
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#263 SethG

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Posted 13 May 2009 - 04:51 PM

QUOTE(Wilfrid @ May 13 2009, 12:11 PM) View Post
I must say, I really dislike the Sagrada Familia in its current condition. Best to get a distant view of the wild spires from one of the hill-tops on the edge of town.


It does have the feel of a tourist mill about it, and you're always being herded this way or that, but I still think the opportunity to climb in and out of the giant corn cob towers is hard to pass up. Good fun.

Casa Batllo IMHO is really far and away the best Gaudi site in the city, although the Pedrera has the better view from the roof. Visitors who want more modernista stuff besides Gaudi might want to check out the modernista walking tour in the back of the Cadogan guide, which in the most recent printing is about five years old. These Cadogan guides are never so hot for the most recent restaurants or clubs, anyway, but if you like history/art/architecture they are the best even if they're a few years old, so long as they are written by Dana Facaros & Michael Pauls. We were following the walk from the guidebook, and peeking into the vestibule of a house on the Gran Via designed by Enric Sagnier, when we received some very kind Barcelona hospitality. A man who turned out to be the owner (or at least, he turned out to be the occupant of the parlor-level apartment) came to the door and invited us to come in to get a good look at the vestiblue, which is in perfect condition. Once there, a lady who seemed to be a caretaker talked to us in Spanish (which my wife sometimes understood) about various details on the walls, the grand staircase, the elevator and the entryway. It was a totally unexpected treat. Nice people.
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Posted 18 May 2009 - 06:32 PM

We just got back on Saturday from our week in Barcelona (w/ a daytrip to Girona). Other then a slight gout flare up (solved by the Spanish apparent disdain for perscriptions and my ability to get Indocin OTC) it was a great trip. Thanks for everyones advice.

Restaurants we went to were Gresca, Hisop, and Cellar de Can Roca.
Also went to Bar Mut, Tapac 24, Paco Meralgo and Dos Paillos for more casual meals.

Paco Meralgo was quite fine for what it was - although it was pretty much predominantly American tourists - one of whom was on Atkins, and appeared to be attempting to get the staff to sing Happy Birthday to her partner. Quite entertaining if not slightly embarassing as an American. Had a bunch of various classic simple seafood dishes that were good for what they were. I liked this place but I think I agree with the whole "Great for a Sunday" view.

Gresca - was excellent had a John Dory + Cockscomb dish that was great. Girlfriend had Scallops. For starter I had a duck ham and Langoustine dish that while simple was very good. they seem to love garnishes using flowers. Monday night - filled with Americans - probably due to a write up in Food and Wine. Compared to NYC a tremendous deal price wise. 100 Euros or so for three courses w/ wine + various amuses. The amuse was described as "Pig throat" which amused me. Dessert was the weakest course

Can Roca - A great meal and great value for money - took the longest tasting. Two courses that were to me really really great - a Lamb with Tomato bread where they had sous-vided some inner membrane or inner layer of skin then crisped it on top of bread cubes and then served that with a sort of dry salad of tomato and bread crumbs + frisee along with a small piece of loin. Really excellent. The other course was Sea Bass in an olive sauce with little gelatinized balls of liquid olive puree masquerading as olives. If you like bitter/astringent flavors this course was a huge winner. The other courses were excellent, although the final course of Goose a la Royale was just simply too heavy to end up such a large tasting. I ate half of it, my GF had just a taste of hers. As far as the amuses went there was one - a raw carrot coated in a black truffle gelee that made me want to go physically attack Dan Barber for his schtick (even more so when for essentially the same meals but vastly superior food - tasting + pairing Can Roca was 25% cheaper). There was another amuse, a carmel coated anchovy stuffed green olive that has now official surpassed Kumyss as the most vile thing I have ever eaten in my life. Good lord was this bad. Room was lovely. After lunch we walked around Girona for 4-5 hours - the old town is really lovely. Asked my girlfriend to marry me in the square in the front of the cathedral.

Hisop - We both had the Octopus Calcotada starter - that leek tart was just awesome. Had hake with morels in a bourbon cream sauce and a lamb w/ favas. The hake was great and the morels were a decent sized portion. The lamb was well executed but a little dull. The desert was a schticky "Cigar and Brandy" routine with two foams (espresso and tobacco) + prune armangnac ice cream. The espresso foam was great. Trying to figure out how it was stabilized. It wasn't really a foam - more of an incredibly light gelatin. They actually recommended a red blend from Priorat to go with the menu that was not a fruit-bomby as most of the stuff we were served. I really don't care for most modern Spanish reds and drank white wine or beer with our more casual meals. I regretably did not order the cheese course - but this was the last day of the trip and my liver was already near collapse so it was for the best.

Bar Mut was excellent - although I think ordering is paramount. We had a pretty pedestrian plate of Almejas to start with but then got a great Mar i Muntanya dish of pork jowl and squid + plus some great potatoes, eggs, and morcilla dish.

Tapac 24 - not really much to add.

Dos Paillos - was good for what I had - but I was jet lagged and wanted to cut my foot off (see mention of Gout above)

Lunches of Note
-Avoid the place in Mercat Santa Caterina
-I have an unnatural love of sitting outside at Cerveceria Catalana. I don't know why but I've ended up there at least once every time I've been to Barcelona. It was our first non jet lagged meal of the trip and a great reintroduction to eating in Spain.

Went to Jamonissimo where they put together a great tasting of Salamancan and Extremaduran Iberico de Bellota from different sections of each ham. Great. Fantastic. Could go on for days. It had stupidly never occured to me how different the muscles in the ham could taste from one another. Had my usual crisis of conscience about buying several Kilos to take home vs the risk of having several hundered Euros of merchandise confiscated by the phillistines at JFK. Rationality won and I came home empty handed. Saw the articles Rohan has written about the place up on the wall. Kind of out of the way (only a bit) for tourists but totally worth the short side trip.

Rented an Apartment in the Raval right near the Macba. Hipster central. It was fine,cheap and close enough to Placa Catalunya to be really central.

Most of our sight seeing was me revisting the big sights for the benefit of my girlfriend - but went to the Palau de Musica Catalana for the first time - a first rate sight. If we go back again I'd hope to see a concert there.

One last observation in my overly long efforts here - If Mets/Jets fans want to feel good about their relative second fiddle status within the NYC sports heirarchy they should talk with an Espanyol fan. Barca won the Copa del Rey while we were in town. Pretty impressive celebration. The politics implicit in Athletico Bilbao vs Barca playing in the Kings Cup are pretty interesting to an American who doesn't associate sports with politics.




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Posted 18 May 2009 - 07:15 PM

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Respect.
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Posted 18 May 2009 - 07:36 PM

I assumed we might run into you at Paco Meralgo, Anthony. (We were there the same night.) But once I saw how many seats there were (and all of them full), and how many of them were occupied by tourists, I gave up that prospect.

Other restaurants were so tiny we wondered how the economics could possibly work out. Hisop, Commerc 24, Cinq Sentis-- each of these restaurants has a handful of tables, seating perhaps 30 people, max. Without the hefty wine markup, how do they make money?
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Posted 18 May 2009 - 07:42 PM

forgot to add that we also had a pea puree + cuttlefish dim sum style dumpling w/ cuttlefish broth at Can Roca that was wonderful. Totally delicate and subtle. Lovely. Another of the most memorable dishes.
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Posted 18 May 2009 - 07:49 PM

QUOTE(SethG @ May 18 2009, 03:36 PM) View Post
I assumed we might run into you at Paco Meralgo, Anthony. (We were there the same night.) But once I saw how many seats there were (and all of them full), and how many of them were occupied by tourists, I gave up that prospect.

Other restaurants were so tiny we wondered how the economics could possibly work out. Hisop, Commerc 24, Cinq Sentis-- each of these restaurants has a handful of tables, seating perhaps 30 people, max. Without the hefty wine markup, how do they make money?

We were in the American section it appeared. In a two top against the wall.


YES! this was a topic we were constantly discussing on the trip. One turn a night. Small room. Higher front of house labor costs. Lower markup on the wine. Even if food costs were much lower that still wouldn't make the whole thing work. I don't know but it didn't make any sense to me. My guess is lower capital investment + lower rent (but that didn't make any sense to me - Barcelona is not a cheap real estate market). The rooms are very spartan. In NY I'm not sure a place with rooms like Hisop or Gresca would be taken seriously as fine dining. That is a shame
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Posted 18 May 2009 - 08:04 PM

Tapac 24 does more turns a night than most nyc restaurants can dream of, as does Paco Meralgo. Hisop is a mystery.

I guess it is just a matter of, as you've suggested, lower initial investment and lower expectations. Nobody opens a fancy burger joint like DBGB that needs to make $4.5mm/year to break even.
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#270 Anthony Bonner

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Posted 18 May 2009 - 08:16 PM

QUOTE(Orik @ May 18 2009, 04:04 PM) View Post
Tapac 24 does more turns a night than most nyc restaurants can dream of, as does Paco Meralgo. Hisop is a mystery.

I guess it is just a matter of, as you've suggested, lower initial investment and lower expectations. Nobody opens a fancy burger joint like DBGB that needs to make $4.5mm/year to break even.

It was really just wrt to fine dining that the business model seemed untenable. Tapac 24 is indeed a revenue cow - but its also in a much choicer location.

But anecdotally it would seem even at the 2-3 star leve in Europe fine dining is a very very tough business.
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