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#3451 hollywood

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Posted 30 January 2019 - 10:38 PM

Meanwhile, Don't Tell a Soul 30 years on.  Spoiler alert: it holds up.  http://www.lawyersgu...l-soul-turns-30


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#3452 Wilfrid

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 12:47 AM

SF Sorrow in an EV bar. Unexpected.

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Posted 03 May 2019 - 07:21 PM

That's getting past "pop music stopping", though.  I don't think anyone is playing or listening to that as if it's contemporary music.  It's more a case of connoisseurship -- more like a certain kind of bar or restaurant playing rare jump blues tracks in the '80s.


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Posted 04 May 2019 - 12:07 AM

If it was.

But this wasn’t knowing curation, just something on a playlist which sounded like other stuff on the playlist.

It took me a while to notice what it was, because it was part of a homogenize rockish background drone.

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Posted 31 May 2019 - 10:53 PM

Gang of Four in new and grown-up cocktail bar. It certainly doesn’t sound 40 years old (partly because of immense lasting influence on later indie bands).

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Posted 08 June 2019 - 05:21 PM

Good listening on this topic, for those that can stomach it from Jon Caramanica :

 

https://www.nytimes....-pop-stars.html 

 

https://www.nytimes....re-weekend.html

 

It is weird to think of 1960s rock, or mid-2000s indie, as much more than dad rock now. 


I think you need to interpret what I'm saying in a reasonable way.


#3457 Wilfrid

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Posted 21 July 2019 - 12:23 AM

Gang of Four from 41 years ago in a rather staid midtown cocktail bar. 1970s Trostky rock had no idea of its future.

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Posted 21 July 2019 - 11:16 AM

Gang of Four from 41 years ago in a rather staid midtown cocktail bar. 1970s Trostky rock had no idea of its future.

I enjoyed them, and was fortunate enough to see them once in a small San Jose club, probably early to mid-80s?



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Posted 03 October 2019 - 05:30 PM

How art stopped


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Posted 03 October 2019 - 09:25 PM

Robbie Robertson on The Takeaway lauding Billie Eilish. Pop hasn’t stopped, it may just not be for you.

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#3461 Wilfrid

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Posted 03 October 2019 - 10:12 PM

Billie Eilish just needs to sing out a bit more.

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Posted 03 October 2019 - 10:19 PM

I think by now the premise of this thread isn't true anymore (rock music is well and truly dead as living form, and when you hear it in bars it's retro) (and being played in staid Midtown cocktail bars is like the opposite of a sign of vitality).

 

But Billie Eilish, good as she may be, isn't doing anything that wasn't being done 40 years ago.


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Posted 03 October 2019 - 10:20 PM

I.e., nobody ever said there wasn't still good pop music.  Only that the forms that it takes have remained stable for an unprecedented time.


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Posted 03 October 2019 - 11:29 PM

to repeat myself from several lifetimes ago: i don't think there's much unprecedented about the length of time the form of contemporary pop music has remained stable. what is more unusual is how long a particular form has remained both stable and the preeminent popular form. crooning, for example, has continued to remain a stable form for even longer but the top pop stars stopped being crooners a while ago.


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Posted 03 October 2019 - 11:53 PM

You're bursting our Buble.


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