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#766 Sneakeater

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Posted 02 January 2019 - 05:19 PM

Well he did make the point somewhere that the advent of coffee changed the nature of discourse from pubs because coffee is a stimulant rather than a soporific.


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Posted 02 January 2019 - 05:20 PM

Also, although the piece addressed the social effects of cafés broadly, its taking off point was Jews in cafés.  And Jews historically didn't go to bars.


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Posted 02 January 2019 - 10:09 PM

(a) Science aside, I have not noticed alcohol consumption making people shut up (except beyond a certain point). :D

(b) Yes, that's fair, and why not write a book about cafes and their Jewish clientele?  The review made it sound like cafes were the only locus of public, social discourse. Or maybe I just read it that way,



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Posted 02 January 2019 - 11:46 PM

A simple but seldom mentioned component is that cafes;coffee houses have offered "living rooms" for a large population living in very cramped quarters, rooms, bed-sits.

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Posted 02 January 2019 - 11:49 PM

And they still do, although people sit there for hours in isolated contemplation of their laptops.

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Posted 03 January 2019 - 01:07 AM

And they still do, although people sit there for hours in isolated contemplation of their laptops.

 

Do you suppose Hemingway et cie, staring at their blank pages, were perceived similarly?    


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Posted 03 January 2019 - 03:49 AM

Fair point.

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Posted 08 March 2019 - 04:47 PM

Interesting piece about Niki Nakayama


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