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#121 Anthony Bonner

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Posted 09 January 2018 - 12:28 PM

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#122 Steve R.

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Posted 10 January 2018 - 02:41 PM

I’ve watched quite a bit of analysis since the game (which I watched in its entirety, something I hardly ever do) & everyone points to Saban’s QB change as a major success (which it was). Maybe I missed it, but has anyone talked about the fact that he switched, not only to someone who might change the energy level or who has a rifle arm, but to a LEFTIE, who might have taken the defense off its game?

As an aside, the NYTimes had a piece a couple of days ago rightfully explaining that Saban is not a QB-centric coach but has them fit in as needed. They wrote about how few of his QBs are success stories in the NFL, especially given the # of championships won by Alabama. Interesting stuff to me. If accurate, I really wonder how these 2 QBs view their futures.

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Posted 10 January 2018 - 03:02 PM

As a broad overgeneralization Alabama players have underperformed expectations in the NFL.  


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#124 Peter Creasey

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Posted 10 January 2018 - 03:10 PM

Some Georgia fans are of the opinion the refereeing was unfair.  And there were several videos showing calls/non-calls that seemed to lend some merit to such a claim.


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#125 Lex

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Posted 10 January 2018 - 03:18 PM

As a broad overgeneralization Alabama players have underperformed expectations in the NFL.


Funny.  Jason La Canfora of CBS pointed out the same thing yesterday.
 
How many great college players have we seen fizzle in the NFL?  (Not just Alabama players.)  Players are bigger and faster in the NFL.  The defensive and offensive schemes are much more complicated.  Blocking schemes too, especially on the OL.
 
Recently I heard Steve Young asked about the biggest difference for QBs between college and the pros.  He didn't hesitate.
 
"In college all your receivers are open.  In the pros almost none of them are."
 
I used to hold all that against the college game but about 5 years ago it dawned on me that I was missing out on some terrific college football.  Now I just enjoy it on its own terms.


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#126 Anthony Bonner

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Posted 10 January 2018 - 04:01 PM

Yeah but usually, those players are scouted to be not as good as expected. I.e. Tebow was a bust, but no one expected him to be any good.  Alabama its been kind of across the board - which isn't to say there aren't great Alabama players in the league - I mean Julio Jones is awesome.

 

I guess the real question is what % of Alabama 5 star recruits become NFL starters relative to 5 stars generally. That would the right analysis. Even at the 4 star level the variance is too high for it make sense as an analysis.


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Posted 10 January 2018 - 04:01 PM

The greater skill disparity in college football is what makes it more fun. Variance in outcomes is also a lot higher.


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Posted 11 January 2018 - 05:52 AM

There was some Alabama player who attracted a bit of attention in New York in the late '60s.


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#129 Steve R.

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 01:22 AM

Fitzpatrick to Miami at #11.
Evelyn - your thoughts?

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 02:33 AM

the slurs front seven will have three players from alabama next year.

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 03:30 PM

Fitzpatrick to Miami at #11.
Evelyn - your thoughts?

Mink Is one of the brightest football minds Ive seen come through Alabama. He played six positions for us on D. He is also a leader in he locker room. A culture changer. The psychological tests we give players showed that he is as close to being Nick Saban mentally as you possibly could be. He's also a special guy away from football. Well known for his mission trips and charity work in his summers off from Bama. With him (and Bama teammate Kenyan Drake) I think the Dolphins are on the right track. Our guys know how much work it takes to make (and maintain) a winning culture.

@Aaronthat will pay dividends for them. See my comment above about winning culture. Good group. And they might end up with one more Bama player there before the draft is over 😎

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Posted 27 April 2018 - 03:51 PM

That's why I asked -- I've heard really good things about him.  I'm just not sure that the Dolphins are the best use for him.  The Giants would've been nice but they did well with their one pick.  


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Posted 27 April 2018 - 04:09 PM

Whoever got him was going to get a very good player. If he had joined Landon in NY, that would have put the fear of god into opposing offenses. Hes a Jersey kid, and his family really had hoped for that. But I think he is the kind of player that will be successful anywhere he goes. Just happy he didn't end up in Cleveland 😱😎😝