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#1 Rail Paul

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 06:12 PM

NY Times reports listeria was found in some samples, as two people have perished.

 

The article notes there are many ways in which the listeria may have entered the process

 

 

https://www.nytimes....n-new-york.html


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Posted 13 March 2017 - 06:16 PM

all my cheese friends are super pissed about the Times.. Apparently, there is a lot of information either missing or titled to be worse than it is.. It's really sad as they are a beautiful cheese producer and very nice people.. 

 

My only fear is, big cheese, our these processed cheese makers will use to pass more legislation against people making good food.. Just how they did recently which closed down a lot of small producing meat curers.   


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#3 Rail Paul

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 06:42 PM

For some reason I can't copy the text, but the article mentions that the US regulations are less strict than European rules.  Specifically the steps and intervals required to reduce the risk of contamination.  I'm sure more rules on an already regulated product wouldn't be welcomed.


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#4 Wilfrid

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Posted 13 March 2017 - 10:42 PM

Well the cheese I reviewed on the Pink Pig last week was at least one of their other raw milk cheeses, the Heinennellie.

Instinctively I am inclined to believe Daniel on this.

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 02:31 PM

It seems unnecessary for the Times article to place so much emphasis on the Vulto Creamery cheese being made from raw milk. A cheesemonger just told me there was a massive recall in 2014 after Listeria was found in Kraft cheese slices.



#6 Rail Paul

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Posted 19 March 2017 - 07:24 PM

The raw milk aspect may be of more interest to the NYT demographic.

Although I would believe that 2 or 3 samples out of a hundred thousand examples may be overkill.
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#7 Anthony Bonner

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Posted 20 March 2017 - 02:19 PM

It seems unnecessary for the Times article to place so much emphasis on the Vulto Creamery cheese being made from raw milk. A cheesemonger just told me there was a massive recall in 2014 after Listeria was found in Kraft cheese slices.


You can find meta-analysis of the issue where it's rather clear the listeriosis risk of raw milk is much higher. The data I can find for cheese confirms the same (something like 75% despite being a very small percentage of consumption)
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