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#16 Orik

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Posted 15 March 2019 - 07:05 PM

It could be worse - Ginza Six is 50% larger than Hudson Yards and as far as I can tell offers no mortadella ta all.


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Posted 15 March 2019 - 07:07 PM

Miracle on the Hudson - Part Deaux (without the plane or the water of course.)

 

Just found out - the Hudson Yards designers also designed the Boeing Max 8 as a side job in between gigs.



#18 Anthony Bonner

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Posted 15 March 2019 - 07:49 PM

Idk. Having been to a bunch of massive Tokyo developments and Hudson Yards in the last week I think I'd take Ginza Six if I had to take one. Theyre both sterile but at least one feels like a future.

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Posted 15 March 2019 - 09:08 PM

Haven't been to Hudson Yards yet. What I like about Ginza Six is that side bus entrance that is both a mouth and a rectum for Chinese tour groups. But I'm hard pressed to think of anything good about those mega developments. 


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Posted 15 March 2019 - 09:17 PM

Billionaire Stephen Ross Insists Hudson Yards Is For Everyone. And He’s Unhappy That No One Believes Him

 

Ross defends the 18-million-square-foot project, which is being subsidized by an estimated $1.4 billion in tax breaks and $4 billion in other investments from the city, as “not a neighborhood for the rich,” despite condo prices that will range from $4 million to upwards of $32 million. “It’s not a separate enclave,” he says, a claim that doesn’t stand up to scrutiny, at least so far.

 



#21 Anthony Bonner

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Posted 15 March 2019 - 10:00 PM

Haven't been to Hudson Yards yet. What I like about Ginza Six is that side bus entrance that is both a mouth and a rectum for Chinese tour groups. But I'm hard pressed to think of anything good about those mega developments.


Nah. There is nothing good about them, but at least the Japanese ones are trying.

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#22 Anthony Bonner

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Posted 15 March 2019 - 10:01 PM

Interesting note. Everyone in Japan talks about how many tourists are coming and yet relative to population arrivals remain really low relative the US, France, Italy, Spain.

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Posted 15 March 2019 - 10:15 PM

Well, the growth rate has been astounding (600% in 15 years, most of that in 5 years) but also concentration is a bit worse than in other places both due to lack of infrastructure and due to over 70% of tourists coming from herd mentality countries, so they are all going to be along Omotesando dori at the same time and they're all going to want their picture taken outside Fuglen at sunset with the same cup of coffee as some Korean actress, even if they don't like coffee at all.


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#24 Anthony Bonner

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Posted 15 March 2019 - 11:02 PM

I mostly agree with you, I was just surprised by the data. When I was in Morioka last week they were talking about tourist arrivals like it was Carcassonne.

FSA announced something pretty big today so I might be spending a bunch more time in Japon Profonde.

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Posted 15 March 2019 - 11:38 PM

it's a mall. its a cruise ship, its a big space. all of these places are starting to remind me of like hidden rebel cities in sci fi movies.  I'm into it because, i have a kid and new york has a winter.  Asia has a mall culture or indoor culture and I am not a fan of that either. but people like it.  it's techno. 


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#26 Wilfrid

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 05:32 AM

I thought it was a bologna sandwich.

For myself I have only surveyed this development from the extensive 45th floor terraces of a global software giant, while being plied with lobster and champagne, so I don’t know what people are griping about.

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 05:35 AM

it's a mall. its a cruise ship, its a big space. all of these places are starting to remind me of like hidden rebel cities in sci fi movies. I'm into it because, i have a kid and new york has a winter. Asia has a mall culture or indoor culture and I am not a fan of that either. but people like it. it's techno.


Oh yeah, when it was going up I remember walking through it and finding it very Blade Runner.

(Okay the Gatsby experience wasn’t literally the only time...)

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Posted 16 March 2019 - 01:02 PM

...but remember the alternative was a football stadium that would have been used eight days a year!!!



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Posted 04 June 2019 - 01:00 PM

Reviews (of restaurants) have started to roll in.

 

Sutton on Estiatoria Milos. I love this review...

 

Thing is, we’re all familiar with these stories; stereotypically bad restaurants are a dime a dozen in this city. I highlight the opaque pricing because an unsuspecting diner could really get taken here. And that is what makes Milos a uniquely bad restaurant.

 



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Posted 04 June 2019 - 01:03 PM

And here's the one on Wild Ink...review (where Tien Ho was the consulting chef for a while).

 

Wild Ink poses more questions than it answers: Did Ho simply not monitor Jin closely enough? Had he lost touch with the city’s changing culinary scene following his absence? Did the Rhubarb folks issue a cruel clubstaurant food mandate, arguing they’ll sell better with the mall crowd? Will things be this mediocre when the next Rhubarb spot opens at the Hudson Yard observatory? Whatever the answers, let me end by paraphrasing the words of my honest bartender: I can’t recommend that you eat here.