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#1 mongo_jones

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Posted 05 November 2018 - 04:17 PM

so, i recently adapted a madhur jaffrey carrot cake recipe to make it closer to north indian carrot halwa. the cake was a success but i have a question about something i did out of laziness:

 

the recipe calls for the cake to be baked at 350f. however, i had previously been roasting squash at 450 and when that got done i didn't want to wait around for the oven to come down to 350. i slung the cake tin in at 450, lowered the oven temp to 350, and just kept testing to see when it was ready.  it probably took about 20 minutes to come down to 350 and the cake was ready at about the 55 minute mark and the results were good. and no, the top was not burned and the cake was not dry (my adaptation makes for a much moister cake than the original).

 

but as a novice baker i have no idea if it would have been even better if baked throughout at 350. though again given how much more liquid my batter was (uh huh huh huh) than the original i'm not sure if it would have come together as well at the lower temp for the whole time. i'm also curious about whether it is at all common to do this sort of "start at a high temp and come down as you go" baking.

 

thoughts?


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#2 Anthony Bonner

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Posted 05 November 2018 - 04:24 PM

Isn't temp the tradeoff between getting the starches to gelatinize(?) before the leavening agent (air bubbles) collapses, and actually getting the whole thing to cook through without the outside burning? 

 

I.e. starting at 250 to get to 350 is probably more problematic than starting at 450 to get to 350, 

 

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#3 mongo_jones

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Posted 05 November 2018 - 05:52 PM

that link has told me i will never bake my own bread.


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#4 joethefoodie

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Posted 05 November 2018 - 05:52 PM

I don't know how well bread baking adapts to cake baking?

 

And since the original recipe was adapted to mongo's preferences, and that recipe became much more liquid, the higher temp probably wasn't that big a problem. Had the batter been drier, there might've been some issues.

 

450 is sure a high temperature for pastries/quick breads/cakes. I've certainly seen and done plenty of bread baking that starts at a high temp, and the temp gets lowered after the initial oven spring. 

 

Other question - are you sure as to the accuracy of your oven temp, as I think that's probably more important in baking than most anything else?



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Posted 05 November 2018 - 08:57 PM

If you had to drive off more liquid it may have helped your cake. I'd say it's just too many variables to make a definitive statement about impact: mass/volume of the batter, location of pan in the oven, how long had you been at 450, how well insulated is your oven, how long was the door open, were you using convection, etc.

 

If you put something in a cold oven that is close to the floor where the element/burner is located you can get a overcooking (or even a little scorching) on the bottom of a pan from the radiant heat of a hot floor. But again, lots of variables.


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Posted 06 November 2018 - 06:25 PM


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#7 mongo_jones

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Posted 07 November 2018 - 01:00 AM

this is why people leave the site.


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Posted 07 November 2018 - 01:32 AM

You can always leave the oven door open for 5 minutes or so to make the temperature come down fast. Overly high temp. Will not be good for anything with a lot of eggs or butter,especially free form baking like cookies.
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