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#31 Sneakeater

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Posted 23 December 2018 - 03:00 AM

I honestly believe “Brown Sugat” is a very canny and purposeful exploration of the racial contradictions and paradoxes of white rock music. It’s subtler than “Sail Away”.
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Posted 23 December 2018 - 03:12 AM

Or to maybe put it more clearly, "Brown Sugar" does for the basic racial injustice at the base of white rock music what "Heroin" does for opioid abuse: reveals it for the destructive evil it is while also showing how immensely seductive it can be.
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Posted 23 December 2018 - 06:27 AM

I honestly believe “Brown Sugat” is a very canny and purposeful exploration of the racial contradictions and paradoxes of white rock music. It’s subtler than “Sail Away”.

Nobody ever said Newman was going for subtlety.


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Posted 23 December 2018 - 12:23 PM

GYS



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Posted 23 December 2018 - 12:24 PM

This horse is getting so tall, it's impossible not to get hurt.



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Posted 23 December 2018 - 01:07 PM

 

I'm most bemused by the controversy surrounding the Pogues Christmas lyrics, where Kristy MacColl had actually stopped singing the offensive lyric before her death, and yet you can still find jackasses claiming "faggot" isn't the pejorative you think it is.


That’s an interesting one, because now I think about it, I have always assumed Shane and Kristy are effectively playing characters there, as in a musical, which creates some distance. The whole thing is theatrical.

 

Agree Wilf; certainly the released video of that song is all theatre, with Matt Dillon playing the NYPD cop.

 

This means absolutely nothing relevant, except maybe to Pogues' fans, but Cait O'Riordan now lives in the east village, plays often with the musicians who still play in the east village, at places like Berlin, Coney Island Baby, Bowery Electric, et al.



#37 Wilfrid

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Posted 29 December 2018 - 03:35 AM

Did not know that. And apparently Shane is still alive.

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Posted 29 December 2018 - 03:36 AM

My wife had never heard Flanders and Swann. How I have failed her.

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Posted 29 December 2018 - 03:39 AM

Digression: Every adult in the States knows Basil Fawlty and Monty Python; they know Dudley Moore from Hollywood. Do people know Peter Cook? Does anyone know Spike Milligan and The Goons (and Peter Sellers being part of it)?; and I suppose nobody knows Flanders and Swann?

Short history of British comedy.

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Posted 29 December 2018 - 04:05 AM

Digression: Every adult in the States knows Basil Fawlty and Monty Python; they know Dudley Moore from Hollywood. Do people know Peter Cook? Does anyone know Spike Milligan and The Goons (and Peter Sellers being part of it)?; and I suppose nobody knows Flanders and Swann?

Short history of British comedy.


Peter Cook: Check, because of The Princess Bride (Mawidge!)

Goon Show: Check, my dad was a fan and had the episodes on cassette. I occasionally recall the skit about sawing the legs off a piano and crack myself up.

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Posted 29 December 2018 - 04:02 PM

Digression: Every adult in the States knows Basil Fawlty and Monty Python; they know Dudley Moore from Hollywood. Do people know Peter Cook? Does anyone know Spike Milligan and The Goons (and Peter Sellers being part of it)?; and I suppose nobody knows Flanders and Swann?

Short history of British comedy.

Peter Cook from Bedazzled.


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Posted 29 December 2018 - 07:46 PM

Digression: Every adult in the States knows Basil Fawlty and Monty Python; they know Dudley Moore from Hollywood. Do people know Peter Cook? Does anyone know Spike Milligan and The Goons (and Peter Sellers being part of it)?; and I suppose nobody knows Flanders and Swann?

Short history of British comedy.


Would say Peter Cook is a name people might know, but wouldn't have actually seen/heard.

Flanders & Swann the next level down.

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#43 Wilfrid

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Posted 30 December 2018 - 12:53 AM

Agree.

Oh Bedazzled. Cook, Moore, and Racquel Welch. Re-made in 2000 with Brendan Fraser.

Cook did star in a US sitcom, I think as a butler, but it was a disaster.

Re Goons, “What time is it Eccles?” comes to mind every time someone asks me “What time is it?” And I have been known to reply, “I got it written on a piece of paper.”

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Posted 30 December 2018 - 05:04 AM

Agree.
 and Racquel Welch. 
 

Lillian Lust, the girl with the bust.


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#45 Wilfrid

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Posted 30 December 2018 - 11:22 PM

They don’t write them like that any more.