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#1 Wilfrid

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Posted 14 January 2019 - 05:17 PM

It will re-open, in the old space, with the old fittings apparently intact.  But as a chophouse.



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Posted 14 January 2019 - 05:44 PM

"In horror."  Ugh.  (I mean, I know the horror is directed toward the current scarcity -- but shit, people involved with food should be more open-minded than that.)


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Posted 15 January 2019 - 12:28 PM

I’ve had whale. Can’t say it was amazing. Obviously some species are scarce and some are not. (Some are presumably better eating than others too.)

But I wonder if it was actually mock horror in the interview?
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Posted 15 January 2019 - 12:30 PM

I guess it could be about the intelligence of the species you’re eating...which is a point.

Chickens are really really dumb. So are fish. Cattle aren’t much smarter....pigs on the other hand.
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Posted 15 January 2019 - 01:59 PM

the whale I had was disgusting.

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Posted 15 January 2019 - 02:41 PM

The whale in Iceland is/was great!!!



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Posted 15 January 2019 - 03:33 PM

I guess it could be about the intelligence of the species you’re eating...which is a point.

Chickens are really really dumb. So are fish. Cattle aren’t much smarter....pigs on the other hand.


It's safe to say by the time you're eating whale it's not very intelligent at all.
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Posted 15 January 2019 - 06:15 PM

the whale I had was disgusting.

 

I didn't like the whale I had either.  But I don't like calve's liver and I don't go telling people not to serve it (except not to me).


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Posted 16 January 2019 - 12:23 AM

This whale is from the historic archives, right?

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Posted 16 January 2019 - 12:31 AM

They certainly weren’t serving whale at Gage & Tollner during my adulthood.
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Posted 16 January 2019 - 02:38 AM

Huge assumption.



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Posted 16 January 2019 - 02:50 AM

How so? I’ve lived within walking distance of it since I was 25.
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Posted 16 January 2019 - 02:58 AM

True and they were serving whale in the 1890's.



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Posted 16 January 2019 - 03:00 AM

Everything old is new again.

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Posted 16 January 2019 - 05:42 AM

This whale is from the historic archives, right?

 

Wilf, you more than anyone should understand why this upsets me, since you've read even more culinary history than I have and have examined even more old menus.

 

Menu offerings in 19th Century New York were incredibly extensive.  There was game from up the Hudson Valley and from the Mid-Atlantic and the South.  There was a range of meats, poultry, and seafood far beyond anything seen in our lifetimes.   Terrapin was a beloved delicacy.

 

It seems to me that if you really care about cuisine, you should decry the narrowness of our current diet -- not gloat about it as St. John did.


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