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Wilfrid

Member Since 15 Oct 2009
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In Topic: The surrealism of everyday life

Today, 12:35 AM

Waking up with 20 minutes left in my flight, there is no need to spend the 18 dollars 15 dollars for 20 minutes
Of internet. It’s strange as sometimes I will go to the United app to pay and I will notice I get an email ding or a like from Instagram pop up. Well now, without paying, i only have access to mouthfuls. No messenger, no text messages, no email, no other websites but moutfhuls working. I’m assuming this has something to do with Ori


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In Topic: The surrealism of everyday life

Today, 12:34 AM

🤣 You don’t know what you’re missing.

In Topic: Today I Sang

Yesterday, 04:08 PM

Or the Jacques Brel song translated as “If You Go Away”?

 
"My Way" is a horrible lyric, but it's obviously not meant to be a translation.
 
For what is a man, what has he got
If not himself, then he has naught

 

What's worse, the last word universally heard as "not."


In Topic: Today I played...

Yesterday, 03:45 PM

 

You made me re-listen to the first This Heat album last night, and I didn’t remember there were some rockist guitar moments in it. Okay, maybe Frippy, but still rockist. Charles Hayward is remarkably restrained in the cause of industrial austerity.

 

This is actually a sort of general thing I've noticed.  If you listen to records that are early examples of some style you had thought was highly disruptive, they as often as not sound surprisingly like the style they supposedly superseded.

 

Listen to the first Mothers of Invention album, for example:  a lot of it sounds a lot like LA garage rock.  The first Captain Beefheart album sounds a lot like LA garage blues-rock.  But both were hailed (or reviled) upon release as disruptive breakthroughs.

 

Or, for another example, the first Soft Machine album.  An awful lot of it now sounds like mid/late-'60s British rock.

 

I don't think it's so much that the artists' visions hadn't crystalized yet on these early works.  I think it's more that it's harder to transcend your surroundings than you think.  I often think that the later music of artists like this sounds different not because they've more fully realized their styles, but rather because their own influence has helped cause the surrounding music to change (in the case of almost every one of these artists -- not Beefheart -- not for the better), and they're just reflecting that.

 

 

I think it's also hard to put yourself in the position of the audience for the music when it first appeared.  Anyone listening to the Sex Pistols now would understandably wonder what was so new about them, following the Small Faces and The Who.  But in the context those first singles were released, they were disruptive.  If one regards PiL as the equivalent of late Pistols, I think your last point applies well.


In Topic: Ric Ocasek

Yesterday, 03:00 AM

We were watching old Cars videos just a couple of weeks ago. Relentlessly goofy.