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In Topic: Wine stores in the Napa Valley

01 January 2016 - 07:32 PM

Carrie and Randy Bowman own Napa Valley Wine and Cigar, on Silverado Trail. They're active on Wineberserkers and seem to have a good selection.  Great people too.

 

http://www.napavalleywineandcigar.com/


In Topic: That's SO LA!

11 December 2015 - 01:12 AM

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Another aside about Lodi, we take hiway 26 on our route.    In season, we see truck after truck, like ants,  hauling grapes or juice or, God save us, wine to Napa.   It's a straight shot from Lodi.    Still legally "California" zin and pinot made or bottled in Napa.    

 

 

Don't knock Lodi that easily. Pinot, maybe, but there are lots of old Zin vineyards in Lodi that produce very good quality fruit. Just sayin'.

 

 

You don't have to convince me.    We've even taken old vine Zin as gifts to our winemaker hosts in France.     They have been commended as very well made, well balanced if higher in alcohol than average French wines.    Fruity, yes.    One young adult daughter commented, "This is a red wine for girls who say they don't like red wine."   In any event, not a drop left at the end of the evenings.

 

So, then, why the comment:"........God save us, wine to Napa"?? Do you think there are no quality winemakers in Lodi? There's been lots of blending fruit shipped from Lodi to Napa for a VERY long time, but there are also some very good winemakers. Just curious.

 

Sorry to have caused confusion and angst.   My point was that many wines that people eagerly buy from Napa winemakers are made with central valley grapes, not from napa valley grapes.   If anything, it is giving credence to the quality of Lodi grapes, not denigrating it.    We pay $50 a bottle for Lodi high end zin, and are delighted to find late harvest viognier at $26/375ml.   

 

The grapes, juice and wine that I spoke of are being transported to Napa are not old vine nor the product of "very good winemakers".   It is bulk product that will be blended and sold under a "California" rather than either Napa or Lodi designation.    It is no reflection on anything but the vast quantity of grapes grown in the lush central valley.   On our route to the country, we are surrounded by vineyard from Antioch to San Andreas.     That's a lot of grapes that need to find winemakers.

 

I tend to become a little concerned that not all (or even many) of the people reading are all that knowledgeable on every subject and can get a negative impression from statements like the one you made.  I'm happy that you agree there's quality product in Lodi.  I was just trying to do my part for the winemakers there who don't need negative images. I'd also suggest that grapes coming from vineyards right next to those producing good, local product may not be as second class as the 'bulk' image might convey.  Just sayin'.


In Topic: That's SO LA!

05 December 2015 - 08:22 PM

 

 

 

 

 

 

Another aside about Lodi, we take hiway 26 on our route.    In season, we see truck after truck, like ants,  hauling grapes or juice or, God save us, wine to Napa.   It's a straight shot from Lodi.    Still legally "California" zin and pinot made or bottled in Napa.    

 

 

Don't knock Lodi that easily. Pinot, maybe, but there are lots of old Zin vineyards in Lodi that produce very good quality fruit. Just sayin'.

 

 

You don't have to convince me.    We've even taken old vine Zin as gifts to our winemaker hosts in France.     They have been commended as very well made, well balanced if higher in alcohol than average French wines.    Fruity, yes.    One young adult daughter commented, "This is a red wine for girls who say they don't like red wine."   In any event, not a drop left at the end of the evenings.

 

So, then, why the comment:"........God save us, wine to Napa"?? Do you think there are no quality winemakers in Lodi? There's been lots of blending fruit shipped from Lodi to Napa for a VERY long time, but there are also some very good winemakers. Just curious.


In Topic: That's SO LA!

04 December 2015 - 07:54 PM

 

 

 

 

Another aside about Lodi, we take hiway 26 on our route.    In season, we see truck after truck, like ants,  hauling grapes or juice or, God save us, wine to Napa.   It's a straight shot from Lodi.    Still legally "California" zin and pinot made or bottled in Napa.    

 

 

Don't knock Lodi that easily. Pinot, maybe, but there are lots of old Zin vineyards in Lodi that produce very good quality fruit. Just sayin'.


In Topic: Wax-capsuled wine bottles = arg!

10 November 2015 - 09:01 PM

That's why it's better to just lightly hammer them off inside (through) a grocery bag so the bag can catch them.

Huh? Real wax only I assume? You try that with the plastic-y kind and you'd better have a bucket under the bag.