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#1 Rail Paul

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Posted 22 March 2009 - 03:18 PM

The NYT has an article today about the confrontation of the food revolution (local food networks, new food rules, better nutrition eduction) and the souring economy. Although much has been done in the past decade to improve food quality and safety, two powerful obstacles remain.

One is the "trade down" as struggling families choose not to spend an extra $2 per half gallon for local, organic, farmer friendly milk. There's substantial evidence that the price differential hurts many small growers. The same effect is being noticed in vegetables, etc.

The other obstacle is Congress. Although the President has endorsed broad reform, and proposed bills which would would overhaul the US agriculture system, many members of congress have different interests.


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For instance, the celebrity chef Alice Waters recommends that the federal government triple its budget for school lunches to provide youngsters with healthier food. And the author Michael Pollan has called on President Obama to pursue a “reform of the entire food system” by focusing on a Pollan priority: diversified, regional food networks.

Still, some activists worry that their dreams of a less-processed American diet may soon collide with the realities of Washington and the financial gloom over much of the country. Even the Bush administration, reviled by many food activists, came to Washington intent on reforming farm subsidies, only to be slapped down by Congress.

Mr. Pollan, who contributes to The New York Times Magazine, likens sustainable-food activists to the environmental movement in the 1970s. Though encouraged by the Obama administration’s positions, he worries that food activists may lack political savvy.

“The movement is not ready for prime time,” he says. “It’s not like we have an infrastructure with legislation ready to go.”

Even so, many activists say they are packing their bags and heading to Washington. They are bringing along a copy of “Food Inc.,” which includes attacks on the corn lobby and Monsanto, and intend to provide a private screening for Mr. Vilsack and Ms. Merrigan.

“We are so used to being outside the door,” says Walter Robb, co-president and chief operating officer of Whole Foods Market, the grocery chain that played a crucial role in making organic and natural food more mainstream. “We are in the door now.”

AT the heart of the sustainable-food movement is a belief that America has become efficient at producing cheap, abundant food that profits corporations and agribusiness, but is unhealthy and bad for the environment.

The federal government is culpable, the activists say, because it pays farmers billions in subsidies each year for growing grains and soybeans. A result is an abundance of corn and soybeans that provide cheap feed for livestock and inexpensive food ingredients like high-fructose corn syrup.

They argue that farm policy — and federal dollars — should instead encourage farmers to grow more diverse crops, reward conservation practices and promote local food networks that rely less on fossil fuels for such things as fertilizer and transportation.

Last year, mandatory spending on farm subsidies was $7.5 billion, compared with $15 million for programs for organic and local foods, according to the House Appropriations Committee.




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Posted 23 March 2009 - 02:35 PM

Pollan is such a giant douche that he's now trying to tone down the so called revolution, fearing he might be remembered as the guy who made food expensive.
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#3 Rail Paul

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Posted 23 March 2009 - 03:41 PM

QUOTE(Orik @ Mar 23 2009, 10:35 AM) View Post
Pollan is such a giant douche that he's now trying to tone down the so called revolution, fearing he might be remembered as the guy who made food expensive.



I think that the variation in price between organic and regular food is such that organic has already assumed the role of elitist. That has to be galling to many people (Alice Waters among them), but the efficiencies and waste of mass produced food have kept prices very low in the US.

I considered buying a 5# bag of King Arthur flour at Shop Rite for 3.99 (down from $4.99), but decided to go with the 0.99 5# bag of Shop-Rite house brand flour. I'm sure many other people are making similar choices. Pay 4x as much for butter? No way for me.

Changing that paradigm will be tough. Ag Secy Vilsack is from a grain state, and he's an ethanol man. Senators in the midwest and CA don't like people messing with their crop supports and farm subsidies. They work just fine for the farmers.
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Posted 23 March 2009 - 04:34 PM

I like having the option to adjust my food budget as needed. I don't want to grow my own food, other than as a hobby.
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#5 Ron Johnson

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Posted 23 March 2009 - 05:32 PM

I watched an interview of Alice Waters by Leslie Stahl. I am all for locally grown, organic food that is raised humanely. I hate chain restaurants, fast food and microwave dinners. I believe transfats and high fructose corn syrup are bad for us. But, Alice Waters is a freaking cookoo. This woman could not have appeared more out of touch with reality. When asked to give an example of a "slow food" breakfast that families in america should emulate, she leisurely prepared a dish consisting of toasted slices of an artisanal loaf, crowned with organic micro-greens and heirloom tomatoes that she tossed with extra virgin olive oil and fleur de sel. This was topped with a free range egg that she "cooked" by breaking it into a large spoon and holding it over the open flame of her custom built wood-fired kitchen hearth, one at a time.

then when she went to visit an urban garden where she has an inner city school class working to plant vegetables, she damn near fell over when she tried to stab the dirt with a pitchfork. She looked to be about as comfortable working in the dirt as I am manning the space shuttle.

give me a break lady. if average, working class, middle america believes that Ms. Waters is the epitomy of slow food, McDonald's just won.



#6 Stone

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Posted 23 March 2009 - 05:52 PM

Welcome to Berkeley.

#7 The Scream

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Posted 23 March 2009 - 11:33 PM

Hi Alice,

I emailed you once. You're assistant or some such replied. I don't have an assistant. I have two small children. And I work mostly full-time, over time when a project is due.

My kids eat breakfast everyday before school. Some mornings I make them sausage, eggs two ways and hash browns. The hash browns are frozen from Trader Joe's. I know I only have to spend just a few minutes more peeling and grating a large potato or two to make them fresh hash browns. But it's morning, Alice, early morning and maybe I went to sleep past midnight because my five year old was sick or I had to meet a deadline and couldn't get the work done during the day because I had to take one kid or another to soccer practice and help with homework. Did I mention my kids are trilingual? Stone knows this. In between washing morning dishes and pans I pack them a hot lunch in a thermos, because they don't like what their school serves for lunch. My kids eat 3-5 times a day, including hot snacks. I am in front of the stove and sink 3-5 times a day, everyday, just for them. Besides not having an assistant, I don't have a dishwasher either.

Somewhere between your version of Slow Food and a steady diet of corn syrup and transfat, there is my world. If it makes you feel better my kids grew organic lettuce in their garden to donate to a local food bank. And my daughter just had a brioche grilled cheese sandwich stuffed with fresh "artisanal" mozzarella toasted in duck fat.
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Posted 23 March 2009 - 11:38 PM

I'm so tired of this subject.
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#9 Stone

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Posted 23 March 2009 - 11:38 PM

You should get yourself a dishwasher.

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Posted 23 March 2009 - 11:44 PM

QUOTE(Stone @ Mar 23 2009, 11:38 PM) View Post
You should get yourself a dishwasher.


We had one, but it broke. It was an odd stove/dishwasher combo with a tiny oven attached to the wall near the hood. When we replaced the whole thing we opted for a full size oven, no dishwasher contraption. No space elsewhere for a dishwasher.
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#11 The Scream

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Posted 23 March 2009 - 11:45 PM

QUOTE(foodie52 @ Mar 23 2009, 11:38 PM) View Post
I'm so tired of this subject.


Same here, but I was just asked to write an article about her work. I turned it down. And I work with school gardens, so her rhetoric comes up again and again.
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#12 mongo_jones

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Posted 23 March 2009 - 11:54 PM

it's a wonder anyone has time for the internet, between the slow food and the long work day.

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Posted 23 March 2009 - 11:56 PM

i think AW should be cooked slowly and fed to all the poor children. that is, if someone can come up with the right seasonings to counteract her bitterness

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#14 Stone

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Posted 23 March 2009 - 11:57 PM

She's only trying to make the world as good for everyone as it is for well-to-do Berklians. If only you had her money and privilege, you'd realize that you're a fool to live any other way.

#15 The Scream

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Posted 24 March 2009 - 12:56 AM

Annoying nattering aside, her ideas don't make economic sense.
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