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#1 Gomez

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 10:50 PM

Husband wants a fancy coffee machine, he drinks espresso and I like the other stuff based on espresso -

I want to get him a really good one, not one with "pods"

Any good suggestions?

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#2 Orik

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Posted 12 December 2009 - 11:12 PM

This:

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The one I have at the office is getting close to espresso number 10000 and is still going strong. The one at home isn't used much since we got Abraco.

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#3 Behemoth

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Posted 13 December 2009 - 01:00 AM

yup, that's what we have too. It gets a hell of a lot of use and in the three years we've had it all we've done in terms of maintenance is change the gasket (5 euro) once.
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#4 Anthony Bonner

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Posted 13 December 2009 - 03:00 AM

same here. Its great.
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Posted 06 January 2012 - 05:23 PM

After having our Silvia in the shop 3 or 4 times over the past two years with a burnt-out heat element and nobody being able to tell us what was wrong with it, we finally decided to put the thing up for adoption, and upgraded to a Bezerra BZ09. I still think the Silvia is a fine machine. We may have just gotten a lemon, and even then it gave us six years of very good espresso with very heavy use. I would still recommend it to anyone who loves good espresso but is not a member of a two-really-way-too-obsessive-compulsive-coffee-fiends household. Just try to get it from a dealer who is willing to guarantee repairs.

We switched to the Bezerra in the end mainly because it is covered for repairs by a reputable dealer in town. They also carry Silvias but don't guarantee repairs because their experiences with the manufacturer have apparently been pretty spotty. But beyond that, this machine ended up being a major upgrade, much more than I had expected given the difference in price. With the Silvia I had to temperature surf and while it was possible to get a great shot when planets were properly aligned, with this machine the temps don't cycle so it produces beautiful thick crema every time. Plus it has two heating elements so I can froth milk in parallel, meaning I can caffeinate my houseguests several times over in the time it used to take me to pull my first shot with the Silvia. And since the temperature remains stable, and is switched on by a lever rather than a dial, the steam is more consistent and easier to control so I get microfoam each time. Ferns!

It did take a few tries to get it right though - it froths a cup of milk in less than 12 seconds, so that took some getting used to. (I still need some practice.) All in all, the extra $$ may not be worth it for everyone -- the Silvia was already plenty flashy -- but damn, this machine is really fun to use. Actually, considering the Bezerra is still under $1000, it's not a bad deal at all for the quality, if you're into this sort of thing.

This is what a not particularly spectacular cappucino attempt looks like -- this would have been as good as it gets with the Silvia.

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#6 Daniel

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 04:21 AM

after a trip today to William Sonoma, i have been sort of convinced i need a Breville Oracle..  It took Illy coffee which i normally hate and turned it into a thing of beauty.   It's rather expensive but, it's the best cup of homemade espresso I have ever had.  It seems like a pretty serious machine.   

Anyone know anything about this machine. 


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#7 Anthony Bonner

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 11:45 AM

Lol. The reviews are kind of hilarious. " I should hate this thing but I don't "

Sounds like a pretty neat machine. Sort of a new category.

Of course these days our Silvia mostly gets used for the nanny to steam milk f for the top of her instant coffee.
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#8 joethefoodie

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 02:00 PM

I don't turn Silvia on in the summer. It heats up the kitchen a bit too much.



#9 joethefoodie

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Posted 13 August 2014 - 02:16 PM

I worry about any machine that does everything for you except drink the coffee...but that's just me.

 

People seem to like it though.



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Posted 17 December 2014 - 08:48 PM

pulled the trigger this weekend.. should be getting it in the next day or so.. figured we are going to need some coffee.. I had $500 in gift cards, $1,000 in credit for my old machine.. So, out of pocket is was $488 and they gave me 150 dollars back towards store credit through some promotion that i can use after 12/26.  total out of pocket, was the $488 but, got 150 back.. so, all in all, i think this machine only cost me 340 bucks, using my math. 

 

Pretty excited.  


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Posted 15 February 2015 - 05:43 PM

pulled the trigger this weekend.. should be getting it in the next day or so.. figured we are going to need some coffee.. I had $500 in gift cards, $1,000 in credit for my old machine.. So, out of pocket is was $488 and they gave me 150 dollars back towards store credit through some promotion that i can use after 12/26.  total out of pocket, was the $488 but, got 150 back.. so, all in all, i think this machine only cost me 340 bucks, using my math. 

 

Pretty excited.  

 

 

Here I am begging for the full story on your Breville Oracle...pretty please go into detail about it.



#12 Daniel

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Posted 15 February 2015 - 06:06 PM

Ha, ok. well it just so turns out, I have the time sitting in my showroom this morning/afternoon.

The oracle is amazing. I'm truly so happy about this item. I am firm believer in spending money on certain things. Things you use everyday. Like a couch, a bed, pillows and sheets. And now this freaking coffee maker.

Everyone we have made a coffee for is, in love with this machine. While we would be too embarrassed to share
The price or go in to detail, every person that has he a coffee makes a comment. miss k's tutor claimed it was the best coffee she ever had. As did our plumber, our contractor, or electrician. Everyone is like, what kind of beans, what kind of milk, what is your secret?

I have not had a coffee outside of the house since buying this thing. It's as good a coffee that is served anywhere. Especially better than the well known coffee shop a
Half block from my house and the popular one around the Corner.

We are opening a shop soon and have coffee samples
From all of the places we are using as a supplier. So we have had the opportunity to try every brand from Illy, to Stump Town, Boue Bottle, Daves, intelligentsia, Brooklyn roasting company and the list goes on.

Each bean I found does better with a different grind. Some
Are better as a late or a macchiato or an espresso. But you are able to change the grind and doing so, changes the size of the single shot, the taste and so on. It's really interesting.

I am not a coffee expert. I'm not into the science involved or the tweaking that can be done. But this machine is so wonderful. The frother also has Many tweaks to do. The milk comes out so damn good.

Also there is a dedicated Americano setting. This produces the best Americano Ive had. Really nice crema
On top.

I am so satisfied with my purchase. To have this in my house was wort the price.
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#13 Evelyn

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Posted 15 February 2015 - 06:24 PM

Thank you for the quick reply. I've been reading up on it. One thing that seems to be common is there is a pretty good learning curve. Most people seem to have real troubles getting a good flavored shot. Saying they come out sour seems to be a common complaint in the beginning. Did you have issues at the start? I'm not a coffee expert either. So any more thoughts are greatly appreciated. It's nice to hear things from someone whose opinion you trust, rather than people who I have no idea if really know anything about anything. Thanks again, Daniel.



#14 Daniel

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Posted 15 February 2015 - 06:49 PM

Not a problem. The curve may be a matter of two to four different pulls. It's Not that difficult. With any machine,
I suggest first trying to on a Saturday morning so it doesn't matter if you look like a meth head after drinking 4 to 5 shots.
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#15 joethefoodie

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Posted 15 February 2015 - 09:33 PM

I find that with single origin beans is where I have the most trouble with shots. Espresso blends work better for me. And, of course, Silvia is a touchy lady - the dry winter air makes her even more touchy.

 

Daniel - how hard is that machine, with it's built in grinder, going to be to clean?