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#76 Wilfrid

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Posted 10 December 2010 - 03:09 PM


I think I'll put it on my to-do list to order a martini from Jose at Sardi's and see how he makes it without me expressing a preference. I mean, what can be bad about that plan? :)


I walked into the Sardi's bar last night.

"Hi, Jose. I'll have a gin martini, wet. Very wet."

As Jose was pouring the vermouth into the shaker, he turned to address the bar.

"This," he said, "is a real martini."

He paused to see if anyone would say anything.

"Lots of vermouth. People order martinis dry, dry, dry. That isn't a martini. That's gin."


A civic treasure, that man is. Needs a statue in Times Square, next to George M. Cohan.

#77 Wilfrid

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Posted 10 December 2010 - 03:11 PM

Not to digress, but to show how times change, I looked at Selmer Fougner's 1935 recipe for a perfectly made Manhattan last night. Fifty-fifty rye and vermouth :o (then a splash of orange bitters and a cherry).

#78 TaliesinNYC

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Posted 15 December 2010 - 09:05 PM

http://www.cocktailt...n_martini.shtml

I guess white chocolate syrup doesn't belong in a martini, huh?

:lol:

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Posted 27 July 2011 - 10:56 PM

1. Oak Room at the Plaza
2. Tao (Patron: It's not a martini without vermouth. Bartender: Sure, it depends how you make it.)
3. Lotus of Siam

(I'll think of the others.)


Hillstone (fomerly Houstons) 53rd and 3rd.

Me: Is there vermouth in here?
BT: We don't put vermouth in our martinis.
Me: It's not a martini without vermouth.
BT: Asshole.
Me: Yes, but I'm right.

And she was.


#80 mongo_jones

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Posted 27 July 2011 - 11:13 PM

do they put gin in their martinis?

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#81 Sneakeater

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Posted 27 July 2011 - 11:42 PM

Only if you ask for it.
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#82 FoodDabbler

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 04:23 AM

You put very little gin in your martini if you're Julia Child.

After a bunch of us saw the J&J movie when it opened, we did the only
thing that seemed reasonable: we got sloshed on Julia's reverse martinis.
(Accompanied by her duck with turnips, a dish that fascinates me because
versions of it go back to Roman times.)

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 04:44 AM

It isn't that they put in more vermouth than gin. You have to fight to get ANY vermouth, let alone a proper measure.

It's that in these barbaric times we live in, the default Martini is somehow a drink made with vodka.
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#84 FoodDabbler

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 05:37 AM

Yes, I understand the barbarism of our time. I blame Bond.

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Posted 28 July 2011 - 02:28 PM

It isn't that they put in more vermouth than gin. You have to fight to get ANY vermouth, let alone a proper measure.

It's that in these barbaric times we live in, the default Martini is somehow a drink made with vodka.


Corrected for accuracy.

I think you need to interpret what I'm saying in a reasonable way.


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Posted 28 July 2011 - 02:58 PM

Thank you.
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