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#16 foodie52

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Posted 28 October 2011 - 11:19 PM

I think tilapia is due for the new name.
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Posted 28 October 2011 - 11:55 PM


What do they call dog now?

Think I found it--consulting Davidson--Rock Salmon.

Cracks me up.


Dogfish is IMO lousy eating and makes for a pain in the @@@ for fishing cuz they'll take any bait before other fish can get to the bait/hook; so when they're around, it's impossible to catch other more desirable fish.

I was told by a commercial fisherman that there's no market in the US and it's all shipped to the UK for fish n chips. Not sure I believe him and I'd guess plenty stays here for fish n chips.economics and Just my cynical opinion....and dogfish may sound bad but better than the small shark that it looks like.

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 02:51 AM



What do they call dog now?

Think I found it--consulting Davidson--Rock Salmon.

Cracks me up.


Dogfish is IMO lousy eating and makes for a pain in the @@@ for fishing cuz they'll take any bait before other fish can get to the bait/hook; so when they're around, it's impossible to catch other more desirable fish.

I was told by a commercial fisherman that there's no market in the US and it's all shipped to the UK for fish n chips. Not sure I believe him and I'd guess plenty stays here for fish n chips.economics and Just my cynical opinion....and dogfish may sound bad but better than the small shark that it looks like.

Dog is related to little shark, as far as I know, and I'm sure your fisher-friend was correct that is was/is popular in the UK.

Old story, monkfish was very unpopular in the UK from the1980-early 2000s; nobody bought it in Scotland during that time, but it sold extremely well in France and my great cousin made a fortune.
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Posted 29 October 2011 - 05:29 AM

Old story, monkfish was very unpopular in the UK from the1980-early 2000s;


wasn't popular in the u.s either when it was known as toadfish.

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Posted 29 October 2011 - 02:20 PM

I think Julia Child helped make it popular. I know that one of her cookbooks has her hoisting a whole one for the camera.
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Posted 29 October 2011 - 06:16 PM

Reading all the links and related reports in the press, I think few journos are doing a good job.

First, mis-naming fish for the purpose of getting a better price: if the customer can't tell the difference b/w a sole and flounder fillet, I'm not getting very upset.

So, the 25% of fish that's mislabeled in that regard I could care less.

Second, the mislabeling of endangered fish to read un-endangered, then of course that is another matter entirely.

Third, something I never even considered was the C02 emissions from the merchant fleet (this usually excludes commercial fishing vessels) but it amounts to nearly 5% of all greenhouse emissions. Put that together with fishing boats.
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Amazing stats:

The shipping industry transports more than 90% of global and European external trade. There are more than 94,000 merchant ships globally, most of which are dry bulk carriers andoiltankers.....Some 466,000 officers and 721,000 sailors serve on merchant ships worldwide. The majority of sailors are recruited from developing countries, especially South East Asia (Philippines, Indonesia, China, India).
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According to the FAO, there are currently (2004) four million commercial fishing vessels.

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Posted 30 October 2011 - 04:39 PM

Time to consider nuclear powered fishing boats.

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Posted 31 October 2011 - 03:01 PM

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 05:09 PM

Initiative announced to go after the seafood black market as well as

 

 

...also would focus on seafood fraud, where one species of fish is sold as another. A study by Oceana, an international organization that focuses on oceans, found that a third of more than 1,200 fish samples tested nationwide were mislabeled.

 

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 09:38 PM

I haven't read everything about that, but I expect it will be another unfunded mandate. Congress is not big on funding regulators.


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Posted 17 March 2015 - 10:35 PM

Ya, the "plan" was announced on Sunday, and is supposed to be the next step in an initiative announced last summer. 

 

Here's some more info: 

 

It’s exactly what the Obama administration targeted on Sunday in announcing a new plan to stop seafood crime. The plan includes an ambitious system that aims to track every wild fish and crustacean from where it is caught to where it is shipped in the United States.

 

 

Before any seafood enters the U.S. market, officials said, it must contain information that federal, state and local officials currently do not ask for: its origin, who caught it, when and with what. That data can be taken by any federal, state and local authority at a port and submitted to a central database for tracking.

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The new recommendations for enhanced tracking and stronger enforcement of regulation by customs and law enforcement officials at ports were crafted by the Presidential Task Force on Combating Illegal, Unreported, and Unregulated Fishing and Seafood Fraud.

 

Formed in August, the panel included representatives from 14 federal agencies led by the departments of State and Commerce, which oversees NOAA.

“This is not something we can snap our fingers and do well,” Smith said. “We’re doing it because we believe having in place a traceability system will allow us to manage this product into U.S. commerce.”

 

In anticipation of the plan, the president requested $3 million in his annual budget proposal for the Commerce Department, which has primary responsibility to police fish-trafficking crime. The money would pay for more enforcement officers.

 

http://www.presshera...st-to-u-s-port/

 

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Posted 17 March 2015 - 10:54 PM

Hey, the title of this thread says 70% and the followup says 30% - see what progress they've already made? 


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Posted 17 March 2015 - 10:56 PM

Look what $7 $4 million gets ya!