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#1 voyager

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Posted 24 July 2011 - 02:45 PM

Name should be Agapé Substance.

Has anyone been? I'm trying to decide whether or not to keep an upcoming dinner res.

Do I read the no choice "menu" correctly that Toutain not only decides how to combine the elements depending on which size meal you order but also opts to serve different preparations to different diners?

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Posted 24 July 2011 - 03:32 PM

I haven't been, but knowing Toutain I'd keep that reservation. At the very least he can execute any dish from Arpege and Corton as well as the chefs there, if not better, and I'm sure he'll add some of his own touches to the mix.
I never said that

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 08:49 PM

I haven't been, but knowing Toutain I'd keep that reservation. At the very least he can execute any dish from Arpege and Corton as well as the chefs there, if not better, and I'm sure he'll add some of his own touches to the mix.


I had an excellent dinner there last week. We sat at the table for two at the pass. David is charming and brilliant. The series of courses (carte blanche) was stunning, and the generous portion of M. Antony 4-year comte was a great treat. I will return.

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 08:54 PM

Does agapé mean something different in French or does this guy have a high opinion of himself?
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Posted 25 July 2011 - 09:03 PM

Love substance sounds a bit icky.

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 09:36 PM

Still no answer to the question, do different diners who have ordered the carte blanche receive different dishes, depending on Toutain's "inspiration" at the moment? Or for some other reason? Or not?

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Posted 25 July 2011 - 10:42 PM

Substance Agape? Carte blanche? Ewwwwwwwwwwww. I'm spitting.
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Posted 25 July 2011 - 11:47 PM

Substance Agape? Carte blanche? Ewwwwwwwwwwww. I'm spitting.


At Quintessence in Tokyo (where they cleverly chose the almost French pronunciation over the not at all English one) they serve you the Carte Blanche that contains a blank slate with the price and some verbiage on why it's blank. They think it's very clever.

But the chef is really talented and very nice.
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Posted 25 July 2011 - 11:58 PM


Substance Agape? Carte blanche? Ewwwwwwwwwwww. I'm spitting.


At Quintessence in Tokyo (where they cleverly chose the almost French pronunciation over the not at all English one) they serve you the Carte Blanche that contains a blank slate with the price and some verbiage on why it's blank. They think it's very clever.

But the chef is really talented and very nice.

David Toutain is also extremely talented, and overwhelmingly charming. I also had a "carte blanche" menu (so stated) at Septime and Akrame. It's as popular as raw almonds in Paris. Also, its Agape Substance, titled this way in relation the other restaurants owned by the same group -- Agape and Agape Bis.

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 12:01 AM



Substance Agape? Carte blanche? Ewwwwwwwwwwww. I'm spitting.


At Quintessence in Tokyo (where they cleverly chose the almost French pronunciation over the not at all English one) they serve you the Carte Blanche that contains a blank slate with the price and some verbiage on why it's blank. They think it's very clever.

But the chef is really talented and very nice.

David Toutain is also extremely talented, and overwhelmingly charming. I also had a "carte blanche" menu (so stated) at Septime and Akrame. It's as popular as raw almonds in Paris. Also, its Agape Substance, titled this way in relation the other restaurants owned by the same group -- Agape and Agape Bis.


Yes, sorry, I wasn't clear. I meant Toutain. I don't know the chef at Quintessence except from saying hi.
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Posted 26 July 2011 - 12:12 AM

How come I'm getting so confused... Maybe some less ego and more input, please?

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 12:34 AM

Just call the damn restaurant if you want an answer to a real question.

Mouthfuls is not for that. Mouthfuls is a place to ask a question and then watch how far astray things can get.

We've ventured to Tokyo already and we're only on page 1. We're doing good. Bravo team!

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 12:42 AM

How come I'm getting so confused... Maybe some less ego and more input, please?

We had a small plate of each course on the menu (although the comte was especially generous).

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 01:18 AM

Just call the restaurant if you want an answer to a real question. Mouthfuls is not for that. Mouthfuls is a place to ask a question and then watch how far astray things can get.


C, Your summary judgement here deserves some serious consideration from the mainstays here.
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#15 voyager

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Posted 26 July 2011 - 01:48 AM


How come I'm getting so confused... Maybe some less ego and more input, please?

We had a small plate of each course on the menu (although the comte was especially generous).

Yes, Nancy, I get that. Question, did people around you enjoy the same dishes as you or perhaps different ones? (Yes, I'm assuming that you were all having the carte blanche.) Perhaps, since you sat at one of the few tables for two, this difference might not have been as obvious to you had you sat at the communal table. Just wondering. Not a big deal.