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#106 changeup

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 07:49 PM

funny:

http://www.trademark...e-78956195.html


That one is all caps though. Totally different.

#107 Anthony Bonner

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 08:12 PM

It's not a criticism.

you don't think its a problem when a high profile opening at this sort of price point with this sort of capital investment isn't interesting enough to dine at alone?
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Posted 11 April 2012 - 08:13 PM


It's not a criticism.

you don't think its a problem when a high profile opening at this sort of price point with this sort of capital investment isn't interesting enough to dine at alone?

It seems to be being pitched as a date place.

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#109 Sneakeater

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 08:19 PM

How many people habitually dine alone?
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Posted 11 April 2012 - 08:19 PM


funny:

http://www.trademark...e-78956195.html


That one is all caps though. Totally different.


And it's in French. I didn't check if he tried to register Nomad as well.

sandwiches that are large and filling and do not contain tuna or prawns


#111 Wilfrid

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 08:27 PM

But I'd be surprised if the existing Nomad has ever made a profit or can show how it plans to do so.


How come it's been open six years? Charity? Money-laundering?

Yes, the owner of Nomad is an owner of Belcourt across the street. Or was last time I looked. I wonder where he got the money to invest; he was a waiter before he opened Nomad.

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 10:13 PM

How many people habitually dine alone?

Sneak, for the balance of ten years I ate 95 percent of my fine dining meals alone.
I had lunch alone at Nomad on Monday. It was easily the best meal i have ever had a Humm restaurant. My three meals at EMP rank as the worst I have had in NYC over the last decade.
I had the trout and then the scallops. The scallops were perfectly cooked. The chocolate tart was excellent but not all that interesting.
The wine list had many wines under $100 but was surprisingly short on half bottles. I am definitely not used to a wine list that groups wine by varietal rather than my region.
I also didn't think the service was as good as it should be. Perhaps, I have been spoiled by the service at the midtown restaurants i eat at so frequently.

#113 Adrian

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Posted 11 April 2012 - 10:15 PM


It's not a criticism.

you don't think its a problem when a high profile opening at this sort of price point with this sort of capital investment isn't interesting enough to dine at alone?


Isn't this like a (more expensive version of) the McNally openings aimed at a slightly different set? I went to Schiller's all the time with friends for that very reason.

I think you need to interpret what I'm saying in a reasonable way.


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Posted 11 April 2012 - 10:26 PM

Right right right right.
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 04:17 PM

you don't think its a problem when a high profile opening at this sort of price point with this sort of capital investment isn't interesting enough to dine at alone?

Why would that be a problem (except for us)? Solo diners are a scant minority of the clientele at most restaurants.
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#116 Anthony Bonner

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 04:21 PM


you don't think its a problem when a high profile opening at this sort of price point with this sort of capital investment isn't interesting enough to dine at alone?

Why would that be a problem (except for us)? Solo diners are a scant minority of the clientele at most restaurants.

Its not "solo dining" its "not interesting enough"

McNally specifically eschews celebrity chefs - and look at the one McNally place we all love to chatter about - Minetta - I'm happy to eat lunch at the bar there solo.

NoMad is being run by the EMP crowd who are supposed to be making fine dining - you all say the menu reads like EMP's least challenging hits.
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 04:23 PM

NoMad is being run by the EMP crowd who are supposed to be making fine dining - you all say the menu reads like EMP's least challenging hits.

All I'm suggesting, is that we need to step back, and recognize that we are atypical. NoMad could be perfect for what it wants to be, while at the same time, being extremely boring for "people like us".
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 04:26 PM

I had lunch alone at Nomad on Monday. It was easily the best meal i have ever had a Humm restaurant. My three meals at EMP rank as the worst I have had in NYC over the last decade.

I wouldn't, even for a second, dispute that you had the experiences at EMP that you've described. It's just very difficult to process what you're saying.

When just about every source in town (among those with sufficient experience to say so), puts EMP in its top 5, or so, either you've been extraordinarily unlucky there, or you're grading on a different curve than just about everyone else.
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#119 Anthony Bonner

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Posted 12 April 2012 - 04:30 PM


NoMad is being run by the EMP crowd who are supposed to be making fine dining - you all say the menu reads like EMP's least challenging hits.

All I'm suggesting, is that we need to step back, and recognize that we are atypical. NoMad could be perfect for what it wants to be, while at the same time, being extremely boring for "people like us".

Fair point.

Perhaps I'm suggesting that we should be actively hostile to the restaurant culture that has people like Daniel Humm opening something Tao for people with an extra ten-years of age and an extra digit on their bank account

(for the overly literal amongst us the Tao comparison is hyperbole I know)
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Posted 12 April 2012 - 04:31 PM



you don't think its a problem when a high profile opening at this sort of price point with this sort of capital investment isn't interesting enough to dine at alone?

Why would that be a problem (except for us)? Solo diners are a scant minority of the clientele at most restaurants.

Its not "solo dining" its "not interesting enough"

McNally specifically eschews celebrity chefs - and look at the one McNally place we all love to chatter about - Minetta - I'm happy to eat lunch at the bar there solo.

NoMad is being run by the EMP crowd who are supposed to be making fine dining - you all say the menu reads like EMP's least challenging hits.


Perhaps I'm not following along, but I'm still not clear as to why exactly NoMad is a problem. Is it an opportunity cost thing? Or a signifier about the nyc dining public? Or does it set bad precedent when big name guys are able to open restaurants selling an unambitious product? Who cares what Humm is supposed to do so long as EMP stays good (JG and others have done the same thing)?

ETA: some clarity there. Isn't the question whether it's Tao or Minetta?

I think you need to interpret what I'm saying in a reasonable way.