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#46 Anthony Bonner

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 03:06 PM

Yeah I don't have Ko in mind at all.

I'm thinking more along the lines of what you see in France and Spain.
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Posted 31 March 2012 - 07:34 PM

So we went last night. The food was great, but nothing that we have not seen before, so I tend to agree with some of the comments from you guys.
To pay $125 for family style menu, I rather go to EMP and have the full fine dining experience. And if I want to have a more low key experience I will go to ISA.

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BTW The pictures are HORRIBLE and do not tell how good was the food . I bought a new camera and did not set up correctly for the diner and that's why the pictures are so dark and yellow.

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 08:27 PM

So summing up, it's $125++pp for family style food and you get to mix your own cocktails? I mean, there is literally a brown paper deli package with meat sliced in it placed on that table.

I mean, I get the joke, but it's on us.

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 08:31 PM


I don't understand the stool thing. Well, I understand it, but I don't understand why some women react (or should react) to it in the manner Adrian describes, nor do I understand why it's considered to be "formal" or funny. Could someone explain?

(FWIW, I prefer a basket-cloth combo to a stool)


You're used to Japan, but where the Japanese concept is based on the horror of you touching the purse that had touched the floor where the waiter may have previously stepped with the same shoes he wears outside (and in the bathroom), I think the European based meaning is slightly different, probably hinting at the fact that your purse is Prada or something.


I just saw the basket-cloth combo in Singapore for the first time at Din Tai Fung - thought it was really neat. If placing your purse on the ground at Per Se is bad, placing your purse on the ground at a busier dim sum restaurant is presumably worse. Thought it was a pretty good solution all around.

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 09:28 PM

So summing up, it's $125++pp for family style food and you get to mix your own cocktails? I mean, there is literally a brown paper deli package with meat sliced in it placed on that table.

I mean, I get the joke, but it's on us.

Yes, the sliced paper deli charcuterie was a little bit too much of a joke. The flatbread that came it with and the pickled vegetables at least make it up for it. They were outstanding. The tasting is way overpriced!

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 09:39 PM

They don't MAKE you mix your own cocktails. They have a list.
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Posted 31 March 2012 - 10:23 PM

Looking through the photos again - have they explicitly stated that their goal is to provide you with really well executed (technique wise) casual dinner date cooking? I mean, if you look at things like a cocktail mixer station, some hors d'oeuvres, bread/cold cuts/pickles, chicken/rack of lamb, cobbler and an ice-cream scoop, that meal is basically the best possible extrapolation of what get's served when you go over to your friends house for a nice couples dinner. Just... really well done.

It would seem to fit the whole hospitality thing too, it has the feel of home.

Actually - Sneak didn't you say that already, that this could be the best date place in the city?

In fact come to think of it, if all goes well, the beds are just upstairs too. And you have no cleanup to do the next day. I guess there's your added value.

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Posted 31 March 2012 - 10:34 PM

So basically: Manhattan's Ad Hoc?

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 12:18 AM

The food here is so well done but I'm most excited about the bar/cocktails here. Above 23rd street (I would even say above 14th), this is hands-down my premier cocktail destination. More accessible than Eleven Mad. They've also hired talent from Death and Co. for the bar program.

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 02:54 AM

I don't know if this is the best cocktail or date spot ...but if you don't hook up with a girl after bringing her to the Nomad, then you have serious Social problems!
After the tasting she/he should be all over u.

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 04:42 AM

Looking through the photos again - have they explicitly stated that their goal is to provide you with really well executed (technique wise) casual dinner date cooking? I mean, if you look at things like a cocktail mixer station, some hors d'oeuvres, bread/cold cuts/pickles, chicken/rack of lamb, cobbler and an ice-cream scoop, that meal is basically the best possible extrapolation of what get's served when you go over to your friends house for a nice couples dinner. Just... really well done.

It would seem to fit the whole hospitality thing too, it has the feel of home.

Actually - Sneak didn't you say that already, that this could be the best date place in the city?

In fact come to think of it, if all goes well, the beds are just upstairs too. And you have no cleanup to do the next day. I guess there's your added value.


YES I SAID THAT.

Isn't it obvious?

I guess what I don't understand is why, all of a sudden, everybody thinks there's something WRONG with a place like that. I think they're a highly necessary category of restaurants (and not just for discreditable reasons). EVERYBODY isn't food-obsessed, you know.
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Posted 01 April 2012 - 05:52 AM

I don't know if this is the best cocktail or date spot ...but if you don't hook up with a girl after bringing her to the Nomad, then you have serious Social problems!
After the tasting she/he should be all over u.


If I can be serious for a minute (sorry!), many of the women I go out with find tasting menus tiresome (and more than they want to eat). The one at NoMad seems gimmicked-up enough that it might keep them interested. But a lot of people don't WANT to wade through seven courses -- no matter how utterly engaging and fascinating the person sitting across the table may be.

Maybe it's just me.

ETA -- Obviously this post is supposed to have some kind of general application. I'm not trying to bore you all by talking about my own individual dating exploits (such as they are).
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Posted 01 April 2012 - 06:29 AM


Looking through the photos again - have they explicitly stated that their goal is to provide you with really well executed (technique wise) casual dinner date cooking? I mean, if you look at things like a cocktail mixer station, some hors d'oeuvres, bread/cold cuts/pickles, chicken/rack of lamb, cobbler and an ice-cream scoop, that meal is basically the best possible extrapolation of what get's served when you go over to your friends house for a nice couples dinner. Just... really well done.

It would seem to fit the whole hospitality thing too, it has the feel of home.

Actually - Sneak didn't you say that already, that this could be the best date place in the city?

In fact come to think of it, if all goes well, the beds are just upstairs too. And you have no cleanup to do the next day. I guess there's your added value.


YES I SAID THAT.

Isn't it obvious?

I guess what I don't understand is why, all of a sudden, everybody thinks there's something WRONG with a place like that. I think they're a highly necessary category of restaurants (and not just for discreditable reasons). EVERYBODY isn't food-obsessed, you know.


I have to say - having not paid attention to what Nomad was until jmoya's post, I'm not at all against having our own, nicer version of Ad Hoc. I love Ad Hoc.

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Posted 01 April 2012 - 02:55 PM


Looking through the photos again - have they explicitly stated that their goal is to provide you with really well executed (technique wise) casual dinner date cooking? I mean, if you look at things like a cocktail mixer station, some hors d'oeuvres, bread/cold cuts/pickles, chicken/rack of lamb, cobbler and an ice-cream scoop, that meal is basically the best possible extrapolation of what get's served when you go over to your friends house for a nice couples dinner. Just... really well done.

It would seem to fit the whole hospitality thing too, it has the feel of home.

Actually - Sneak didn't you say that already, that this could be the best date place in the city?

In fact come to think of it, if all goes well, the beds are just upstairs too. And you have no cleanup to do the next day. I guess there's your added value.


YES I SAID THAT.

Isn't it obvious?

I guess what I don't understand is why, all of a sudden, everybody thinks there's something WRONG with a place like that. I think they're a highly necessary category of restaurants (and not just for discreditable reasons). EVERYBODY isn't food-obsessed, you know.

Its not NoMad that's the problem, its the prevalence of that entire category of restaurants, and what that tells people who want to open restaurants about what they need to be able to provide.

I would debate the "highly necessary" argument, but places like this have a place (maybe for you?) - but they are a symptom of a greater disease.

Not to mention their economics flat out don't work without a big subsidy from a landlord that views them as a marketing expense
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Posted 01 April 2012 - 03:08 PM

Not to mention their economics flat out don't work without a big subsidy from a landlord that views them as a marketing expense


$125++pp wouldn't work for serving family style?? They give you an ice cream scoop for crying out loud.