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[Sneakeater]

I'm sure you're right.

[Wilfrid]

Although I can see the Hooters uniform might as well just say "Look -> Boobs."

[cstuart]

It really is just the name and the corporate-chain association, isn't it? -- Because I guarantee that when the hot weather gets here bars in Park Slope, like everywhere else, will be staffed by shapely young women in tight, low-cut tops and mini-skirts or shorts. And nobody will mind.

It's really not about women.

It's more the crowd. The woman of Hooters aren't quite the same girls working in the other Park Slope bars, short shorts or not.

We had a Hooters here -- at the Wharf, of course -- and no one went so it closed. It probably would have been a lot more successful over by ATT where they get big crowds of South/East Bay people in for the games. Those are the types that go to Hooters.

[Sneakeater]

Although I can see the Hooters uniform might as well just say "Look -> Boobs."

Well, right, yeah.

The point is, it's so BLATANT.

[Sneakeater]

Cstuart is really right. Although no one will admit it, it's really a class thing. But in this case, it doesn't bother me somehow.

[Nathan]

of course it's a class thing!

thus the alleged effect on property values...

[Wilfrid]

Absolutely a class thing. I believe I used the word "hick" in an earlier post, quite deliberately. It can't be admitted, though, because it's tangled up with baby boomer liberalism/feminism.

And you know, it's not so much blatant -- blatancy is rife in the hot weather -- as overly literal.

One deep irony lies in how desperately one youth sector in Brooklyn strives to look like hayseeds, but wouldn't be seen dead in a Hooters.

[Sneakeater]

And you know, it's not so much blatant -- blatancy is rife in the hot weather -- as overly literal.

Right. Right. Right.

[AaronS]

Cstuart is really right. Although no one will admit it, it's really a class thing. But in this case, it doesn't bother me somehow.

I know I'm late to this discussion. to answer suzanne's question: it is a class issue.

hooters, the people that work there, and the people that eat there are lower class. a lot of the people who live around the arena aren't. I think sneak is right about hooter's concept bothering liberals more than a cheesecake factory would, but I don't think it would be that different.

Franny's or Flatbush Farm could serve liquor 24-7 and no one who didn't live directly above would care.

[Wilfrid]

When I visited Hooters, I hope I raised the overall tone.

Has everyone heard my Hooters story?

[Sneakeater]

hooters, the people that work there, and the people that eat there are lower class. a lot of the people who live around the arena aren't. I think sneak is right about hooter's concept bothering liberals more than a cheesecake factory would, but I don't think it would be that different.

Franny's or Flatbush Farm could serve liquor 24-7 and no one who didn't live directly above would care.

Do you really think there would be as much opposition to a Cheesecake Factory?

I think Adrian got it right when he said this was the single chain that would be most offensive to area residents.

[AaronS]

in response to wilfrid: I haven't.

I went to a hooters in midtown once with a bunch of guys from brooklyn. the food was awful.

ETA: exactly as much? of course not. but there would be a lot of opposition. look how much how the nightclubs have fared. it's also interesting to think about how much an evening at the proposed multistory nightclub would have cost.

also missing from the discussion - can you guys really picture women wearing something as short and tight as a hooters uniform at any other business within walking distance? low cut shirts and tight jeans are pretty different from those shorts.

[Sneakeater]

Has everyone heard my Hooters story?

At least one person hasn't.

[Sneakeater]

I'll note again that the problem is all south of Atlantic.

Nobody cares much about the junk north of Atlantic: the Applebees, the Chuck E. Cheese and other stuff in the Atlantic Center, etc.*
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* Well, I guess people got a little upset when teenage customers of the wings chain started killing random passersby in crossfire outside.

[AaronS]

right. there's an applebees and an IHOP that draws the same clientele that the hooters would.