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Digital camera recommendations Varying prices, things to consider

#301 User is offline   SLBunge 

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Posted 02 February 2007 - 01:54 PM

View PostBlondie, on Feb 2 2007, 07:23 AM, said:

View Postbushey, on Feb 2 2007, 08:18 AM, said:

Blondie, which model of the Lumix is equivalent? I was looking at some the other day and was very tempted to buy.

The LX2

Thanks for the link. I'm tempted. My point and shoot Canon does not do well with bright light conditions outdoors because of an inferior lens.
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#302 User is offline   Blondie 

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Posted 02 February 2007 - 01:59 PM

View PostSLBunge, on Feb 2 2007, 08:54 AM, said:

View PostBlondie, on Feb 2 2007, 07:23 AM, said:

View Postbushey, on Feb 2 2007, 08:18 AM, said:

Blondie, which model of the Lumix is equivalent? I was looking at some the other day and was very tempted to buy.

The LX2

Thanks for the link. I'm tempted. My point and shoot Cannon does not do well with bright light conditions outdoors because of an inferior lens.

That's why I got it. My Canon A95 was decent and fine for work, but I wasn't happy with the photos I took in Barcelona a few months back. That sealed the deal.
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#303 User is offline   Lippy 

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Posted 02 February 2007 - 02:40 PM

Olympus has just announced a new model with a zoom lens equivalent of 28 - 500, image stabilization, and RAW. It will retail initially at $500. I'm eager to take a look at this one when it is available, maybe March.
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#304 User is offline   Lippy 

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Posted 02 February 2007 - 03:31 PM

Here are the specs on the above-mentioned Olympus camera. The big question will be the image quality, of course. What interests me most is the range of that lens.
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Posted 02 February 2007 - 05:13 PM

I would be very wary of a lens with that much range, usually it results in really soft images at the long end. The automatic ISO adjusting in low light will result in much grainier images than you may be prepared for, but it's a matter of getting used to the fact. The only other thing is that the relatively slow lens speed at zoom means it will be tough to use the lens for any sort of nature, sports, or action photography as it will not freeze action well. Other than that it looks like it might be a good camera for the price and compactness as long as the imaging processor is up to snuff.

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#306 User is offline   Lippy 

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Posted 02 February 2007 - 06:24 PM

I agree completely, but I'm eager to see what it can with architectural details and long street scenes, which are my primary uses.
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#307 User is offline   cristina 

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Posted 02 February 2007 - 07:59 PM

Here's the Sony a100, the Alpha, that I've been using since October.

http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP....idigitalcameras

Here's a review:

http://www.dphotojournal.com/sony-alpha-ds...-sample-photos/

I am over the moon with this camera.

Lippy, I took the photo below with the lens full-out, from approximately one city block away.

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and cropped it to this:

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I am in love with the camera. It's not pocket-size, but I'm beyond caring.
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#308 User is offline   Lippy 

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Posted 02 February 2007 - 08:50 PM

That's very nice, Cristina.
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Posted 03 February 2007 - 07:39 AM

View PostBlondie, on Jan 31 2007, 09:55 AM, said:

I'm looking forward to your impressions, Pim. I got myself the nearly-identical-but-cheaper Lumix version of the Leica (which, as you said, was completely unavailabale in the States) a few weeks ago, but haven't had much chance to play with it. Love what it's done so far, especially the 16:9 mode.


I'm liking it so far. I took it to the 'hippest art exhibit in London' last night, and it did quite well in dimly lit, or varyingly lit areas. Much better than I expected.

These shots are directly from the camera, shot in RAW, manual, and with no off camera white balance fix. That Leica lens rocks, no?
Considering the weird lighting at the scene, this is not bad at all for a tiny pocket camera, I think.

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 08:22 AM

View Postcristina, on Feb 2 2007, 11:59 AM, said:

Here's the Sony a100, the Alpha, that I've been using since October.

http://www.sonystyle.com/is-bin/INTERSHOP....idigitalcameras

Here's a review:

http://www.dphotojournal.com/sony-alpha-ds...-sample-photos/

I am over the moon with this camera.

Lippy, I took the photo below with the lens full-out, from approximately one city block away.

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and cropped it to this:

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I am in love with the camera. It's not pocket-size, but I'm beyond caring.

Cristina, I hope these are making it into the photography thread. (They may already be there: I'm just in late from a play, and this is the first thread I checked.)

This is a beautiful photo, and a great illustration of judicious cropping!
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Posted 03 February 2007 - 01:44 PM

View Postpim, on Feb 3 2007, 02:39 AM, said:

View PostBlondie, on Jan 31 2007, 09:55 AM, said:

I'm looking forward to your impressions, Pim. I got myself the nearly-identical-but-cheaper Lumix version of the Leica (which, as you said, was completely unavailabale in the States) a few weeks ago, but haven't had much chance to play with it. Love what it's done so far, especially the 16:9 mode.


I'm liking it so far. I took it to the 'hippest art exhibit in London' last night, and it did quite well in dimly lit, or varyingly lit areas. Much better than I expected.

These shots are directly from the camera, shot in RAW, manual, and with no off camera white balance fix. That Leica lens rocks, no?
Considering the weird lighting at the scene, this is not bad at all for a tiny pocket camera, I think.


Those look great. Is that a Mike Nelson installation?
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#312 User is offline   Peter Creasey 

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 04:17 PM

View Postpim, on Feb 3 2007, 01:39 AM, said:

That Leica lens rocks, no?


Pim, speaking of Leica...

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Subject: An Amazing Story out of Nazi Germany

>

>

> The Leica Freedom Train

>

>

> The Leica is the pioneer 35mm camera. It is a German

> product -precise, minimalist, and utterly efficient.

> Behind its worldwide acceptance as a creative tool

> was a family-owned, socially oriented firm that,

> during the Nazi era, acted with uncommon grace,

> generosity and modesty.

>

>

> E. Leitz Inc., designer and manufacturer of

> Germany's most famous photographic product, saved

> its Jews. Ernst Leitz II, the steely eyed

> Protestant patriarch who headed the closely held

> firm as the Holocaust loomed across Europe, acted in

> such a way as to earn the title, "the photography

> industry's Schindler."

>

>

> As soon as Adolf Hitler was named chancellor of

> Germany in 1933, Ernst Leitz II began receiving

> frantic calls from Jewish associates, asking for his

> help in getting them and their families out of the

> country. As Christians, Leitz and his family were

> immune to Nazi Germany's Nuremberg laws, which

> restricted the movement of Jews and limited their

> professional activities. To help his Jewish workers

> and colleagues, Leitz quietly established what has

> become known among historians of the Holocaust as

> "the Leica Freedom Train," a covert means of

> allowing Jews to leave Germany in the guise of Leitz

> employees being assigned overseas. Employees,

> retailers, family members, even friends of family

> members were "assigned" to Leitz sales offices in

> France, Britain, Hong Kong and the United States.

>

>

> Leitz's activities intensified after the

> Kristallnacht of November 1938, during which

> synagogues and Jewish shops were burned across

> Germany. Before long, German "employees" were

> disembarking from the ocean liner Bremen at a New

> York pier and making their way to the Manhattan

> office of Leitz Inc., where executives quickly found

> them jobs in the photographic industry. Each new

> arrival had around his or her neck the symbol of

> freedom - a new Leica. The refugees were paid a

> stipend until they could find work. Out of this

> migration came designers, repair technicians,

> salespeople, marketers and writers for the

> photographic press.

>

>

> Keeping the story quiet

>

>

> The "Leica Freedom Train" was at its height in 1938

> and early 1939, delivering groups of refugees to New

> York every few weeks. Then, with the invasion of

> Poland on Sept. 1, 1939, Germany closed its borders.

> By that time, hundreds of endangered Jews had

> escaped to America, thanks to the Leitzes' efforts.

>

>

> How did Ernst Leitz II and his staff get away with

> it?

>

>

> Leitz Inc. was an internationally recognized brand

> that reflected credit on the newly resurgent Reich.

> The company produced range-finders and other optical

> systems for the German military. Also, the Nazi

> government desperately needed hard currency from

> abroad, and Leitz's single biggest market for

> optical goods was the United States. Even so,

> members of the Leitz family and firm suffered for

> their good works. A top executive, Alfred Turk, was

> jailed for working to help Jews and freed only after

> the payment of a large bribe.

>

>

> Leitz's daughter, Elsie Kuhn-Leitz, was imprisoned

> by the Gestapo after she was caught at the border,

> helping Jewish women cross into Switzerland. She

> eventually was freed but endured rough treatment in

> the course of questioning She also fell under

> suspicion when she attempted to improve the living

> conditions of 700 to 800 Ukrainian slave laborers,

> all of them women, who had been assigned to work in

> the plant during the 1940s.

>

>

> After the war, Kuhn-Leitz received numerous honors

> for her humanitarian efforts, among them the

> Officier d'honneur des Palms Academic from France in

> 1965 and the Aristide Briand Medal from the European

> Academy in the 1970s.

>

>

> Why has no one told this story until now?

>

>

> According to the late Norman Lipton, a freelance

> writer and editor, the Leitz family wanted no

> publicity for its heroic efforts. Only after the

> last member of the Leitz family was dead did the

> "Leica Freedom Train" finally come to light.

>

>

> It is now the subject of a book, "The Greatest

> Invention of the Leitz Family: The Leica Freedom

> Train," by Frank Dabba Smith, a California-born

> rabbi currently living in England.

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 09:47 PM

I played with one of the Leicas at a book fair at Bryant Park in October and found it v-e-r-y tempting. There's something hypnotic about that red dot, isn't there! Nothing else says "quality" louder.
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Posted 03 February 2007 - 11:20 PM

View PostBlondie, on Feb 1 2007, 11:44 AM, said:

Those look great. Is that a Mike Nelson installation?


Christoph Buchel actually. Quite an odd installation even for the Hauser & Wirth galleries :lol:

It's a cross between an art installation and a fun house, where you climb into closets, freezers, or a refrigerator maze to get to things.

Fun.

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Posted 03 February 2007 - 11:22 PM

View PostLippy, on Feb 1 2007, 07:47 PM, said:

There's something hypnotic about that red dot, isn't there! Nothing else says "quality" louder.


There certainly is. :lol:
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