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#1486 Lex

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 02:12 PM

It strikes me that eating that New York themed meal multiple times would be like going to see The Lion King every couple of months.
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 02:13 PM

The folks at Eleven Madison Park ain't stupid, guys. They saw the writing on the wall. Kate Krader (an editor at Food & Wine), who had dinner there last night, reported on Twitter that the narrative-styled service (at least at her table) has been quieted: https://twitter.com/...646072300367872
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 02:13 PM

It strikes me that eating that New York themed meal multiple times would be like going to see The Lion King every couple of months.

More like listening to The Lion Sleeps Tonight every hour.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 02:15 PM

As a New Yorker,you know what my whole problem is with this 'concept'?...in one word? It's CORNY. There's an expression that hasn't been used for awhile,but given the influx of 7-11[on the Bowery!!!],Guy Fieri,and the Chew....I guess that's it-we've fully entered the Corny years...

I've assumed the idea is that they would introduce a new theme periodically, the way Next restaurant is doing in Chicago. The only thing is, Next's first concept was "Escoffier 1900," and EMP's was "New York City," which sounded off-key even before they served their first meal and added a superfluous narration. As they say on twitter: #FAIL

But in a month or so, I assume they'll introduce Concept #2, which I have to think won't be so tone-deaf. I saw a tweet that implied that the narration cards have already been 86'd after the Wells review dropped.
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 02:27 PM

But in a month or so, I assume they'll introduce Concept #2, which I have to think won't be so tone-deaf.


The Golden Age of Hollywood – dine like Bogey and Bacall!

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“I have a dream of a multiplicity of pastramis.”

"None of you get it." - Wilfrid (on the Beatles)

"I don't have time to point out all the ways in which you're wrong" - irnscrabblechf52

#1491 Orik

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 02:30 PM

The commitment to an nyc haute theme predates the latest changes by many months (more than a year?) and I don't think it was ever meant to be a seasonal thing.
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 02:33 PM

Marc, that Wells piece was not a review. It is listed as Critics Notebook. Not at all the same as a review.

Anyway: I was wondering if the food got cold while they went through all the explanations.If it did, that could be one other reason it was dropped.

[M]ost of the pastas hover around $25. This ought to be enough to buy bucatini that is cooked on both ends. -- Pete Wells on Caravaggio ( * review)

 

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#1493 Rich

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 02:35 PM

Anyway: I was wondering if the food got cold while they went through all the explanations.

Almost. The hot food was cold and the cold food was warm. Actually the Egg Cream lost it's charm and froth at the same time - not easy for an Egg Cream.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 02:35 PM

Marc, that Wells piece was not a review. It is listed as Critics Notebook. Not at all the same as a review.

You're kidding. No way. I never would have guessed. Thanks for clearing that up. :lol:
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 02:54 PM

I would think that if a MF regular ate at EMP and received one of these erudite food descriptions, a debate would ensue that would spread to the entire restaurant resulting fisticuffs and bloodletting.

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 03:30 PM

Imagine how fucked up the menu descriptions would be if Mitt Romney was a waiter.
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Posted 20 September 2012 - 04:08 PM


But in a month or so, I assume they'll introduce Concept #2, which I have to think won't be so tone-deaf.


The Golden Age of Hollywood – dine like Bogey and Bacall!

Cuisine of the Old West - Cowboy steaks, Tex-Mex, Native American delicacies

Arabian Nights – the Sultan’s Feast

Ninja Adventure (Oops. That one is already taken.)


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#1498 Lex

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 04:18 PM

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That brings new meaning to the phrase "finger food."

I'm with Wingding on this one. The whole thing strikes me as kitschy in an upscale Cirque du Soleil kind of way.
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#1499 Suzanne F

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Posted 20 September 2012 - 04:23 PM

I think I have a solution:

Before you are allowed to make a reservation, you must take an exam on NY food history. If you pass, you have your meal in peace and quiet. If you flunk, not only are you subjected to the lessons, but they add a "school tax" to your bill to pay for all the training the servers had to go through.

Walk-ins get a pop quiz before seating.

[M]ost of the pastas hover around $25. This ought to be enough to buy bucatini that is cooked on both ends. -- Pete Wells on Caravaggio ( * review)

 

Tonight, there was a dessert of coconut, rhubarb, and black olive. Obvious in its execution how innovation and experiment, when introduced for their own sake, are annoying. --irnscrabblechf52, May 9, 2013

 

notorious stickler -- NY Times
deeply annoying and nitpicking -- Molly O'Neill, One Big Table


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Posted 20 September 2012 - 05:10 PM

Can a diner participate? When I used to get Mormons at the door, wanting to tell me about their beliefs, I always tried to get mentions of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young in first.

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