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#1 g.johnson

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Posted 21 June 2011 - 11:32 PM

Absolute twaddle but twaddle with great production values, acting and script. The final scene of the first series, though it might leave most rolling on the floor in hysteria, left me breathless.

And with Wilko Johnson as a psychopathic torturer. What more could one want.
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Posted 22 June 2011 - 12:41 AM

Absolute twaddle but twaddle with great production values, acting and script. The final scene of the first series, though it might leave most rolling on the floor in hysteria, left me breathless.

And with Wilko Johnson as a psychopathic torturer. What more could one want.

Hmmm. Bonner's old apartment?

Then that happened.

 

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 02:55 AM

Well, I'm sorry to have missed Wilko, but I was just compelled to sit through an episode of this. It had been off my radar, so I hadn't read this thread; I didn't realize an American production based on novels by an American author would turn out to be such a big old slab of British ham.

Various fourth rate British character actors looking distinctly uncomfortable on horseback to pick up their paycheck. The default accent - quite hilariously - seems to be Lancy-Lancy-Lancashire. Ee, it were oop against me tailbone lahk a big cloob.

Very little action in the episode I saw, but much melodramatic debate: it's essentially the bastard child of BBC 2 historical series like "I Claudius" and "The Borgias" and the telenovela. Hideous. Very successful, I'm sure.

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 02:41 PM

the books are really poorly written. my wife, who LOVES that kind of stuff, tells me they're worth it anyways but I couldn't get more than a hundred pages in.

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 02:46 PM

I don't even want to guess how many pages there are.

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 03:05 PM

the books are not great literature, no. i made the mistake of reading the first one after the hbo series began, and because i'm a sucker for plot and finding out how things end i've read all five that have been published and am waiting joylessly for the rest of the series. while the books are more complex than the series, and do more interesting things with the genre, most of the plot and characterization ranges from dull to silly* and there's too much of a reliance on shocking cliffhangers, which are mostly resolved improbably. i also find martin's obsession with violence and rape--which i think he sees as critically revisionist within a romanticised genre--to be verging on the pornographic. some parts of it are very good though.

what is most interesting to me about the "a song of ice and fire" phenomenon is the problem/challenge, as i see it, of writing an extended series in the era of the internet. many years pass between the publication of the books (the fifth one came out four years after the fourth) and fantasy nerds dissect these books and their plots more carefully than scholars annotate "finnegan's wake". every possible plot/character development is played out on forums and read by all his most devoted readers. and martin reads the forums, and has a blog himself. this, i think, accounts for much of the silliness of the last few books: he has to stay ahead of his readers who are already ahead of him.

*i am so thankful to the hbo series for omitting, at least so far, from season 2 (which mostly covers the second book) the sorrowful men of qarth: assassins who, i kid you not, say "i am so sorry" before killing their victims. there is a lot of this kind of thing in the books, and it is not, i think, intended to be parody.

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#7 Wilfrid

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 03:15 PM

I am at a disadvantage, having only been exposed to one hour of the TV series, but there were many laugh-aloud moments for me from the dialogue, which I don't believe the writers intended.

I did read something about the phenomenon a while ago (New Yorker, I think?), and about the desperate pleas to the author to write faster. Jules Romains didn't have to put up with this.

Brief research suggests the TV series is fairly pornographic - but not the episode I saw. :angry:

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 03:18 PM

A friend is reading the latest and schleps it all over town with her. It's a big, fat, heavy sucker.
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Posted 14 May 2012 - 03:25 PM

People are really happy to have big, fat books to read, as long as they are about Harry Potter, or vampires; or, apparently, Thrones.

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 03:28 PM

As I write, I have two Stephanie Meyer novels sitting on my desk. Total 1200 pages. No, I am not reading them.

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 04:07 PM

my wife says those are awful.

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 04:26 PM

I'm reading Alan Cameron's The Last Pagans of Rome. It almost hurts to carry it around.
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Posted 03 April 2013 - 09:59 PM

Montclair NJ's restaurant Pig & Prince will have the special release brews from Ommegang Brewery, created for the Game of Thrones program.

 

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#14 Wilfrid

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Posted 04 April 2013 - 07:10 PM

The nude princess with the dragons has scored a Broadway gig. Breakfast at Tiffany's.  Holly Gonakedly.



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Posted 04 April 2013 - 07:18 PM

The "nude princess?"  As opposed to teh "nude queen who gets fucked by her brother"?  The "nude witch"? The "nude shaman healer"?  The "nude princess with the gay brother"?  And the bevy of nude prostitutes because, after all, in HBO world, the fourth most powerful person in the kingdom happens to own a brothel.  I don't think any woman over the age of 18 has managed to keep her shirt on.