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#16 Anthony Bonner

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Posted 26 May 2019 - 01:19 PM

I have to admit to being quite puzzled as to how you could not have vineyard intervention.

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Posted 26 May 2019 - 06:17 PM

Demeter guarantees the wine is cholesterol free.

 

No, it guarantees it knows how to crochet. 


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#18 Orik

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Posted 26 May 2019 - 08:09 PM

:D

 

 

I have to admit to being quite puzzled as to how you could not have vineyard intervention.

 

A matter of degree, obviously, and sort of discriminatory against some climates. 

 

While faking old bordeaux requires actual wine, I recently had a very easy time convincing friends that red sorrel wine (not in the jamaican sense, but actual juiced red sorrel leaves, wine yeast, sugar, limited co2 release) was a red pet nat from the loire. 


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#19 Wilfrid

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Posted 26 May 2019 - 11:54 PM

Serving pet nats, and some very different ones, to people who don’t care, and consistently they are accepting them as some kind of cider.

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Posted 12 June 2019 - 11:03 AM

Ok, if Jancou is your reference I can see where you'd get the cocaine story  :D

 

No, not from there. I wasn't aware of that. 

 

Whatever Jancou sniffs or not, he always was one of the most knowledgeable, sensible and open-minded promoters of vins nature



#21 Orik

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Posted 12 June 2019 - 01:08 PM

I agree completely. 


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#22 joethefoodie

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Posted 08 September 2019 - 02:55 PM

Pretty funny New Yorker piece about orange wine:

 

The overbearing boldness of orange wine is too diverse to categorize. Some are nutty and firm, like weird sherries, and some are briny, some brightly acidic, and some highly herbal. Some suggest a Carmen-Miranda-headdress spectrum of fruit. At a wine bar where all the descriptions somehow read like Allen Ginsberg’s grocery list, I tasted a Sicilian example said to evoke “copper kettles, chamomile flowers, Ricola popsicle.” Its finish prompted the question, “Is that a note of melon or is it a hint of Goodyear rubber?” By their nature, these wines very much open up as they breathe, slowly revealing subtle glories, or else gradually becoming slightly less bad.

 



#23 Rich

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Posted 08 September 2019 - 03:01 PM

Saw the article, thought I wrote it - but I'm never that sarcastic.

#24 Orik

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Posted 08 September 2019 - 03:09 PM

He should cover one of Helio's sherry tastings, preferably one that's heavy on the VORS. 


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