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#1 Slapsie Maxie

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Posted 02 May 2004 - 04:30 PM

On another thread, Abby challenges my assertion that Toronto is a better bet for Chinese food than NY or London.

While I can be certain of its superiority to London, she is right to suggest that my knowledge of NY chinese scene is not up to date.

Chinese food is never my food of choice in NY based on past indifferent experience and my, albeit infrequent, publishing lunches which often seem to be in Chinatown.

So, on my next visit, where should I go to see what NY has to offer? which are the new places to recommend? I hear good things about places in Brooklyn but can't remember any names

Suggestions appreciated

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#2 Abbylovi

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Posted 02 May 2004 - 05:01 PM

On another thread, Abby challenges my assertion that Toronto is a better bet for Chinese food than NY or London. 

Just to clarify, I wasn't challenging Slapsie's assertion that Toronto has the best Chinese. I was just wondering if your statement was based on any other New York Chinese experiences besides Dim Sum Go Go.
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Posted 02 May 2004 - 05:03 PM

Edit: rather it was, but out of date and not a vast range of experiences

But how about giving me some other suggestions?

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Posted 02 May 2004 - 05:22 PM

Mei Lai Wah--an ancient coffee shop for old men. I go for roast pork buns and the best coffee in Chinatown. Also for dai bao, which is packed with everything but the kitchen sink: chicken, pork, sausage...

New Green Bo for soup dumplings. Actually I love all their dumplings and have been known on occassion to get the veggie dumplings. :ph43r:

The $1 for 5 fried dumpling places. Everyone has a favorite, mine is the Allen Street one.

New York Noodletown for softshells and baby roast pig.

Congee Village for their pork casserole, jellyfish, sliced lotus root, fried bread dessert. I was obsessed with the fried bread a couple of summers ago.

Congee on Bowery--an omni favorite, I'll let her chime in on what she likes.

Ginger milk tea and snacks at Tea and Tea.

Boiled chicken at New Wing Wong or really any of the BBQ joints. It sounds so plain but what makes it special is the ginger/scallion/cilantro/oil intense condiment that comes with. Usually only comes with a dab but I always ask for extra.

BBQed meat at any of the Wing Wongs. Does anyone have a favorite?

Funky Broome for their stir fried norwegian fish filet with minced pork & shredded snow peas.

Yummy Noodle for Anything Pork.

Taiwanese breakfast of fried crullers to dip in either sweet or savory soy milk at Captain King. Oh and the beef and scallion pancake.

Fish ball soup at Deluxe Food Market.
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#5 Slapsie Maxie

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Posted 02 May 2004 - 05:28 PM

That's a great list

I shall definitely try some of them. Noodletown sounds good as indeed does boiled chicken @ NWW

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Posted 02 May 2004 - 08:07 PM

Toronto clearly has better Chinese cuisine (especially haute Chinese) than NY. I haven't visited in several years, though.

No restaurant in NY of which I am aware has Chinese cuisine that is adequate, from a gastronomic perspective. Sad, but true. <_<

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Posted 02 May 2004 - 08:34 PM

Funky Broome for their stir fried norwegian fish filet with minced pork & shredded snow peas.

I haven't been to FB in ages, but I also loved their tofu with duck and salted fish casserole. Many other dishes there were just ok.

Do not, under any circumstances, be tempted to go to Yeah Shanghai Deluxe or to one of the Joe's places.

Of course there are also the Sichuanese - Spicy & Tasty and the 54th/2nd branch of Grand Sichuan, but that's a different category altogether.
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Posted 02 May 2004 - 08:58 PM

May I say that, in my view, the NY Chinese restaurants we are addressing are far from world class with respect to Chinese food, even leaving aside China and other parts of Asia.

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Posted 02 May 2004 - 09:38 PM

Do not, under any circumstances, be tempted to go to Yeah Shanghai Deluxe or to one of the Joe's places.
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I was taken to Yeah once. I can't recall a thing about it to be honest.

Still, despite Cabby's reservations, Abby's list looks like a plan

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#10 Abbylovi

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Posted 02 May 2004 - 09:44 PM

May I say that, in my view, the NY Chinese restaurants we are addressing are far from world class

I don't think that's the goal. The goal is to suggest Chinese places in New York that we like.
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#11 Abbylovi

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Posted 02 May 2004 - 09:45 PM

Of course there are also the Sichuanese - Spicy & Tasty and the 54th/2nd branch of Grand Sichuan, but that's a different category altogether.

How could I forget about Grand Sichuan? I haven't been to Spicy and Tasty but I've wanted to for a very long time.
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Posted 03 May 2004 - 12:57 AM

Toronto clearly has better Chinese cuisine (especially haute Chinese) than NY. I haven't visited in several years, though.

No restaurant in NY of which I am aware has Chinese cuisine that is adequate, from a gastronomic perspective. Sad, but true. <_<

Cabby--Just this evening I was invited to Shun Lee Palace. I've not been for a year or two. Do you have any comments re how it relates to Chinese in NYC in general and to haute Chinese specifically.

The question is open to anyone.

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Posted 03 May 2004 - 01:00 AM

How could I forget about Grand Sichuan?

The one at 28th St @9th Ave has offered the best Chinese I've had in NY.
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Posted 03 May 2004 - 02:03 AM

I haven't been to that one, Yvonne. But I really like the one on 54th & 2nd.

Also want to mention Phoenix Garden, where I've had 3 worth-mentioning meals.
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Posted 03 May 2004 - 10:43 AM

Toronto clearly has better Chinese cuisine (especially haute Chinese) than NY. I haven't visited in several years, though.

No restaurant in NY of which I am aware has Chinese cuisine that is adequate, from a gastronomic perspective. Sad, but true.  <_<

Cabby--Just this evening I was invited to Shun Lee Palace. I've not been for a year or two. Do you have any comments re how it relates to Chinese in NYC in general and to haute Chinese specifically.

The question is open to anyone.

ta

Well, I'd have to say Shun Lee (either of them) is not on my list of preferred Chinese restaurants in NY. I'd say they're both quite inauthentic. <_<