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The greatest advances in human health come from three factors: improved sanitation, improved nutrition, ability to fight infection with anti-biotics. Everything else is a decimal point on the scale of contribution to longevity and prevention of disease.

 

Vaccination is not a decimal point.

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I will sir, why not? I still think, however, that you are wrong. I think you are overestimating the effects of washing your hands and eating your granola and underestimating the wonderful effects of some drugs like "ranitidine" that reduce your symptoms of acid reflux or what others call heartburn. It is quite difficult for me to conclude that hundreds of years of medical studies have been for nothing. and as I understand things, there is nothing we can to do raise the immune system, Old wives tail. One direct side effect would be the development of arthritis.

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So this is the thread where we rant about doctors? Goody.

 

My doctor couldn't even cure the flu I had the other week. He told me to stay in bed and drink "fluids." I could have thought of that, dumbass! Give me a pill or something!

 

He was right, Seth. Virus-caused illnesses are not curable, only preventable. They go away by themselves or they kill you.

 

Oh Christ. I was kidding, people!

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So this is the thread where we rant about doctors? Goody.

 

My doctor couldn't even cure the flu I had the other week. He told me to stay in bed and drink "fluids." I could have thought of that, dumbass! Give me a pill or something!

 

He was right, Seth. Virus-caused illnesses are not curable, only preventable. They go away by themselves or they kill you.

 

Oh Christ. I was kidding, people!

You're so serious. What can we give you to lighten up?

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The greatest advances in human health come from three factors: improved sanitation, improved nutrition, ability to fight infection with anti-biotics. Everything else is a decimal point on the scale of contribution to longevity and prevention of disease.

 

Vaccination is not a decimal point.

 

Yes. I agree. Thanks for that. Vaccination is one of the preventative triumphs of medicine. I should have said that medicine's greatest triumphs are in prevention.I modify the position to take that point. And MG, you belittle what I am referring to by calling it "washing hands and eating granola." The elimination of plague, typhoid fever and dysentery through sanitation and prophylactic cleanliness has saved tens if not hundreds of millions of lives. It is hard for me to understand how you can consider these trivial, unless you are having me on.

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Just checking other sciences: Computer technology has advanced quantums in the last two decades, physics (who the hell knows but I suspect that its advance ahas been not too shabby), chemistry and the making of new materials, engineering and the building with newer materials, mechanics making vehicles more efficient and making gasoline cleaner and more efficient. This has been empirically shown. In the same manner, just by comparison, advances in medical drugs has surely improved the life of fellow citizens.

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MT is correct about the biggest jumps in life expectancy. The elimination ofcontagious, fatal childhood diseases is the major reason. But the increasing number of people living to very old ages does have something to do with new drugs (e.g. statins) open-heart surgery, hip replacements, etc. It is possible to slow the deterioration of old age more effectively than it used to be. However, it still helps to choose the right parents for yourself.

Yep. If you look at graphs of life expectancy over the past hundred year even the introduction of antibiotics caused little more than a blip. Improved nutrition and sanitation have been the main factors. However, in the west we have all had clean drinking water and (more than) adequate nutrition for years and yet life expectancy has continued to increase. That's probably due to improved medical care.

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A definitive review and close reading of medical peer-review journals, and government health statistics shows that American medicine frequently causes more harm than good. The number of people having in-hospital, adverse drug reactions (ADR) to prescribed medicine is 2.2 million.1 Dr. Richard Besser, of the CDC, in 1995, said the number of unnecessary antibiotics prescribed annually for viral infections was 20 million. Dr. Besser, in 2003, now refers to tens of millions of unnecessary antibiotics. The number of unnecessary medical and surgical procedures performed annually is 7.5 million.3 The number of people exposed to unnecessary hospitalization annually is 8.9 million.4 The total number of iatrogenic deaths shown in the following table is 783,936. It is evident that the American medical system is the leading cause of death and injury in the United States. The 2001 heart disease annual death rate is 699,697; the annual cancer death rate, 553,251.5. As few as 5 percent and only up to 20 percent of iatrogenic acts are ever reported.16,24,25,33,34 This implies that if medical errors were completely and accurately reported, we would have a much higher annual iatrogenic death rate than 783,936. Dr. Leape, in 1994, said his figure of 180,000 medical mistakes annually was equivalent to three jumbo-jet crashes every two days.16 Our report shows that six jumbo jets are falling out of the sky each and every day. Gary Null PhD, Carolyn Dean MD ND, Martin Feldman MD, Debora Rasio MD, Dorothy Smith PhD more

 

http://www.shirleys-wellness-cafe.com/ama.htm

 

However you want to slice it, there is a huge problem in our medical system, and pointing to the good cannot excuse or validate the harm. Fact is too many people make too much money to allow our system to make the kinds of regulations and controls that would correct this. Imagine of 100,000 people died every year from processed meats. How long would it take for something to be done?

Gary Null is a quack and a peddler of nutritional supplements. He cannot be trusted. He also doesn't know what iatrogenic means.

 

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