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It would avoid trying to achieve the equivalent of rating Scriabin against the Dead Kennedys.

 

I think those two would have got on very well though. Many substances would have been consumed and much revelry ensued. I actually have a student trying to do a project comparing late Scriabin (The Poem of Ecstasy) with Syd Barrett-era Pink Floyd at the moment.

 

Sorry, random interjection there, but sometimes comparison across genres - artistic or culinary - is interesting, sometimes it isn't... But evaluation is something else.

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To the extent the star system makes sense at all, all restaurants are reviewable on it

 

and yet 99% of the restaurants reviewed fall into a particular genre--you think that's coincidence?

 

 

that's simply not even close to being true.

 

though obviously, dollars make a difference.

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Again, the language problem. If, by restaurants, you mean to include taco trucks and chain burger joints and sandwich counters, I disagree: or perhaps you just mean they all get zero stars, which is hardly helpful and would make for tedious reading - and is tantamount to acknowledging that no, they don't fit into the system because the system can't tell you anything useful about them.

 

 

almost all would get "Satisfactory" or "Poor" which is why there's no need to bother to review them. but they still fit in to the system just fine.

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To the extent the star system makes sense at all, all restaurants are reviewable on it

 

and yet 99% of the restaurants reviewed fall into a particular genre--you think that's coincidence?

 

 

that's simply not even close to being true.

 

though obviously, dollars make a difference.

 

ah...you're using "genre" quite a bit differently than say y. if the 2nd Avenue Deli fits into this genre...well, then yeah, about 95% of Times ratings are of such restaurants. of course, the vast majority of Manhattan restaurants manage to fit into that paradigm...so what does that prove?

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the vast majority of Manhattan restaurants manage to fit into that paradigm...so what does that prove?

 

Let's look at the first few Manhattan "restaurants" starting with the letter B:

 

BLIMPIE

B AND R PERSONAL TOUCH CAFE

BACK HOME #2

BAGEL BISTRO

BAGEL DEPOT

BAGEL LAND

BAGELICIOUS

BAGELS & MORE

BAILEY'S CORNER PUB

BAKED IN THE HOOD

BAKER FIELD STAND #3

BALLATO'S RESTAURANT

BALSLEY CAFE

BAMN!

BANK OF TOKYO CAFETERIA

BANQUET KITCHEN

BARAONDA RESTAURANT

BARBONE

BARCLAY HOSPITALITY SERVICES, INC

BARDOLINO RESTAURANT

 

You were saying?

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Again, the language problem. If, by restaurants, you mean to include taco trucks and chain burger joints and sandwich counters, I disagree: or perhaps you just mean they all get zero stars, which is hardly helpful and would make for tedious reading - and is tantamount to acknowledging that no, they don't fit into the system because the system can't tell you anything useful about them.

 

 

almost all would get "Satisfactory" or "Poor" which is why there's no need to bother to review them. but they still fit in to the system just fine.

We disagree there. Pret-a-Manger, for example, is not generally "poor". If anything, it's "good". A number of taco counters along Roosevelt Avenue are good. Some of the stalls at the Ball Fields are very good. These places are "poor" or "satisfactory" only if they are judged as "proper" sit-down restaurants with wine-lists, table service etc. But you don't want to restrict the system to "proper restaurants". Very well; then you have to give a good sandwich bar one star. Of course, this is never going to happen; but the result would be a mess.

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the vast majority of Manhattan restaurants manage to fit into that paradigm...so what does that prove?

 

Let's look at the first few Manhattan "restaurants" starting with the letter B:

 

BLIMPIE

B AND R PERSONAL TOUCH CAFE

BACK HOME #2

BAGEL BISTRO

BAGEL DEPOT

BAGEL LAND

BAGELICIOUS

BAGELS & MORE

BAILEY'S CORNER PUB

BAKED IN THE HOOD

BAKER FIELD STAND #3

BALLATO'S RESTAURANT

BALSLEY CAFE

BAMN!

BANK OF TOKYO CAFETERIA

BANQUET KITCHEN

BARAONDA RESTAURANT

BARBONE

BARCLAY HOSPITALITY SERVICES, INC

BARDOLINO RESTAURANT

 

You were saying?

 

if 2nd avenue deli fits, then it looks to me like 2/3ds of those fit the genre.

 

you were saying?

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Again, the language problem. If, by restaurants, you mean to include taco trucks and chain burger joints and sandwich counters, I disagree: or perhaps you just mean they all get zero stars, which is hardly helpful and would make for tedious reading - and is tantamount to acknowledging that no, they don't fit into the system because the system can't tell you anything useful about them.

 

 

almost all would get "Satisfactory" or "Poor" which is why there's no need to bother to review them. but they still fit in to the system just fine.

We disagree there. Pret-a-Manger, for example, is not generally "poor". If anything, it's "good". A number of taco counters along Roosevelt Avenue are good. Some of the stalls at the Ball Fields are very good. These places are "poor" or "satisfactory" only if they are judged as "proper" sit-down restaurants with wine-lists, table service etc. But you don't want to restrict the system to "proper restaurants". Very well; then you have to give a good sandwich bar one star. Of course, this is never going to happen; but the result would be a mess.

 

nah..satisfactory would be just fine. too limited a menu....too many things that aren't good...etc.

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the vast majority of Manhattan restaurants manage to fit into that paradigm...so what does that prove?

 

Let's look at the first few Manhattan "restaurants" starting with the letter B:

 

BLIMPIE

B AND R PERSONAL TOUCH CAFE

BACK HOME #2

BAGEL BISTRO

BAGEL DEPOT

BAGEL LAND

BAGELICIOUS

BAGELS & MORE

BAILEY'S CORNER PUB

BAKED IN THE HOOD

BAKER FIELD STAND #3

BALLATO'S RESTAURANT

BALSLEY CAFE

BAMN!

BANK OF TOKYO CAFETERIA

BANQUET KITCHEN

BARAONDA RESTAURANT

BARBONE

BARCLAY HOSPITALITY SERVICES, INC

BARDOLINO RESTAURANT

 

You were saying?

 

if 2nd avenue deli fits, then it looks to me like 2/3ds of those fit the genre.

 

you were saying?

 

 

Can you point out those 2/3ds?

 

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the vast majority of Manhattan restaurants manage to fit into that paradigm...so what does that prove?

 

Let's look at the first few Manhattan "restaurants" starting with the letter B:

 

BLIMPIE

B AND R PERSONAL TOUCH CAFE

BACK HOME #2

BAGEL BISTRO

BAGEL DEPOT

BAGEL LAND

BAGELICIOUS

BAGELS & MORE

BAILEY'S CORNER PUB

BAKED IN THE HOOD

BAKER FIELD STAND #3

BALLATO'S RESTAURANT

BALSLEY CAFE

BAMN!

BANK OF TOKYO CAFETERIA

BANQUET KITCHEN

BARAONDA RESTAURANT

BARBONE

BARCLAY HOSPITALITY SERVICES, INC

BARDOLINO RESTAURANT

 

You were saying?

 

 

this is really skewed by the bagel places, but take away those, the caterer and the automat, and everything else fits. (Blimpie is a close call)

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the vast majority of Manhattan restaurants manage to fit into that paradigm...so what does that prove?

 

Let's look at the first few Manhattan "restaurants" starting with the letter B:

 

...

 

You were saying?

 

 

this is really skewed by the bagel places, but take away those, the caterer and the automat, and everything else fits. (Blimpie is a close call)

 

Ok, so if I take away everything that doesn't fit in a random sample, almost everything that's left fits? :lol:

 

I can get the first block starting with C, but I worry it'll be skewed by the Carbonara.

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nah..satisfactory would be just fine. too limited a menu....too many things that aren't good...etc.

 

That won't do. Pret-a-Manger has too limited a menu in one sense and one sense only. It focusses on sandwiches. If that alone is enough to deem it not "good", despite the quality of the sandwiches, it simply confirms that the ranking system can't deal with sandwich bars.

 

The same is true, ceteris paribus, of a stall at the Ball Fields offering tacos and huaraches.

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