clb Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 God what an innocent I was (am) - never realised the Sweetest Girl was about H. Will have to try to find my copy now and listen again. And Jacques Derrida - Scritti Politti changed my life - in a small way... clb 16 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Vanessa Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 God what an innocent I was (am) - never realised the Sweetest Girl was about H. Will have to try to find my copy now and listen again. And Jacques Derrida - Scritti Politti changed my life - in a small way... clb Ah, that H. v Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slapsie Maxie Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 Sweetest girl in all the world His eyes are for you only Sweetest girl in all the world His eyes are for you only Sweetest girl in all the world His words have died before me Sweetest girl in all the world His words have died before me When they walk in the park, I never can tell When they walk in the dark, I never can tell It's just loving - ooh loving The sweetest boy in all the world His life has got so lonely Sweetest boy in all the world His life has got so lonely Sickest group in all the world How could they do this to me The sickest group in all the world How could they do this to me What I want I will take, what you think that you know Oh such an awful mistake to never let go It's just loving - ooh loving The weakest link in every chain I always want to find it The strongest words in each belief Find out what's behind it Politics is pride too Vagaries of science She left because she understood The value of defiance When the government falls, I wish I could tell When, oh when necessity calls, I never can tell It's just loving - ooh loving Sweetest girl in all the world These words are for you only Sweetest girl in all the world These words have died before me When they walk in the park, I never can tell When they walk in the dark, you know that it never can be told First time I heard this song was on the very first NME cassette give away called C80 which had songs by The Buzzcocks, Pere Ubu, Orange Juice etc etc on it. I listened to it on the a brand new Walkman ( just released, boy was I hip ) which I got as a present for doing well in my O Levels. This song just killed me. I had their two self released indie singles which were jangly politico pop sold in newspaper sleeves through the nascent Virgin stores ( records in packing crates, remember?) but this was something totally new. At first sounding like MOR, then his voice just soars to that middle break. A magical experience The first three albums remain among the greats of the 80's S Quote Link to post Share on other sites
clb Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 She left because she understoodThe value of defiance More great lines. And I love Green's voice, which I can hear now. Thanks, Simon. clb Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Adam Lawrence Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 Gartside is one of the few people who can do clever-clever and not annoy the hell out of me after a while. Paul Heaton writes great tunes but his lyrics irritate a bit too often; I fell out with Lloyd Cole eventually for similar reasons. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slapsie Maxie Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 Paul Heaton writes great tunes but his lyrics irritate a bit too often; I liked " Song for whoever" but I agree he can get on his high horse a bit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wilfrid1 Posted March 30, 2004 Author Share Posted March 30, 2004 I think I still have that NME cassette somewhere - a pretty fine anthology. That all brought back some memories. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Adam Lawrence Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 I don't often wish I were older, but I have the C86 album, and it's complete crap. Primal Scream's _Velocity Girl_ is fab, but the rest is all Shop Assistants this, Mighty Lemon Drops that, Close Lobsters, etc... A friend at college dismissed all that stuff as 'jangly indie wank' and I'm afraid she wasn't far wrong... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wilfrid1 Posted March 30, 2004 Author Share Posted March 30, 2004 Ah, generations. I spent my youth deriding Yes, ELP and the like as "progressive hippy technoshit". Plus ca change.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
g.johnson Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 Ah, generations. I spent my youth deriding Yes, ELP and the like as "progressive hippy technoshit". Plus ca change.... You're lucky. Being a bit older I wasted a couple of years deriding Motown as "too commercial, man," before I discovered my inner Diana Ross. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Slapsie Maxie Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 Ah, generations. I spent my youth deriding Yes, ELP and the like as "progressive hippy technoshit". Plus ca change.... You're lucky. Being a bit older I wasted a couple of years deriding Motown as "too commercial, man," before I discovered my inner Diana Ross. I grew up hating David Bowie and Genesis and, do you know what? when I got older, they were still crap S Quote Link to post Share on other sites
clb Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 Ah, generations. I spent my youth deriding Yes, ELP and the like as "progressive hippy technoshit". Plus ca change.... You're lucky. Being a bit older I wasted a couple of years deriding Motown as "too commercial, man," before I discovered my inner Diana Ross. I grew up hating David Bowie and Genesis and, do you know what? when I got older, they were still crap S Yeah, my opinion of Phil Collins only goes down. I've got the C80 tape somewhere too (can we find a MF theme there?). In a tapes box still hiding under my desk at my parents' house? Played it on the second Walkman. Not 40 yet... clb Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ngatti Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 Ahhh, so easy to deride without context. Such is youth. That's not be as critical as it sounds. I merely append that ELP, DB, and Yes were each in their own way, and some more momentarily then others, seminal, each in their own way and within their own time. Though I make no argument for what came after. But Genesis was, errr...well, wank. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wilfrid1 Posted March 30, 2004 Author Share Posted March 30, 2004 I could defend David Bowie if I wanted to. Up to a point. 1. He got some interesting and comparatively articulate lyrics into the top 10. 2. He wrote a dozen or so catchy songs. 3. Perhaps as much by luck as by judgment, as he seems to have been stoned much of the time, he did a lot to resuscitate interest in Lou Reed and Iggy Pop. 4. He was ahead of the game with short, spiky hair, and with gender games. 5. Although he will still prance about and make a fool of himself, he has developed something of a grown up career too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StephenT Posted March 30, 2004 Share Posted March 30, 2004 4. He was ahead of the game with short, spiky hair, and with gender games. Girls who do that are cute. Boys who do that are just weird. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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