hollywood Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 A local wine shop is offering 2019 Brane-Cantenac (Margaux) at a pre-arrival price of $58. Arrival is fall of 2022. Does this seem like a deal for the patient? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted August 31, 2020 Author Share Posted August 31, 2020 It's a good price for a good wine from a pretty good vintage. But at this exact point, are you really sure you want to be buying something that won't be ready to drink till the 2030s? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hollywood Posted August 31, 2020 Share Posted August 31, 2020 One writer suggests a drinking window of 2029-2044. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
voyager Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 And I'm afraid to buy green bananas... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted September 1, 2020 Author Share Posted September 1, 2020 Spaghetti alla Norma. (I keep making the same things over and over, when the ingredients are in season, cuz I like them.) An interesting (at least to me) point: last time I made this, I thought I might have overcooked the eggplant in the initial pre-sauce frying stage (they were dark dark brown instead of golden). But it turns out they're better that way. This time I fried them to a perfect gold -- and I prefer the added crispiness and especially smokiness I got last time. Fry those suckas! On the side, puntarelle sautéed with garlic scapes and anchovies (see what I did there?). Another day when I just didn't have the energy to think about the wine pairing. 2012 Occhipinti SP68 Was this wine made to drink with Spaghetti alla Norma? It could've been. This is, simply, excellent winemaking. Bright fruit, with some depth: cherries, red berries, dark berries. I'd like to say you then taste volcanic dust, but really you don't. You just get some kind of fairly indistinct dark kind-of-herby non-fruit flavor -- but one that really lasts. An exemplary inexpensive wine. If only it were still inexpensive! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted September 1, 2020 Author Share Posted September 1, 2020 2 hours ago, voyager said: And I'm afraid to buy green bananas... When I was younger and thought I was going to live indefinitely, I bought a good deal of wine that required extended aging. Now -- although it's still hard to get myself to open those bottles, because each opening is an acknowledgement -- I'm enjoying the fruits of those investments. But I'm sure as shit not buying bottles like that anymore. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hollywood Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 So just buy some Silver Oak or White Rock and drink now? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wilfrid Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 I have wines like that earmarked for special birthdays, and while I want to drink the wines, I am in no hurry to reach the birthdays. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Josh Karpf Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 10 hours ago, Sneakeater said: When I was younger and thought I was going to live indefinitely, I bought a good deal of wine that required extended aging. Now -- although it's still hard to get myself to open those bottles, because each opening is an acknowledgement -- I'm enjoying the fruits of those investments. But I'm sure as shit not buying bottles like that anymore. Oenophile cranks Statler and Waldorf in On the Beach: 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted September 1, 2020 Author Share Posted September 1, 2020 To be clear, the only recent event I’m reacting to is my 6Xth birthday. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted September 1, 2020 Author Share Posted September 1, 2020 12 hours ago, hollywood said: So just buy some Silver Oak or White Rock and drink now? The whole point of this thread is that there are loads of relatively inexpensive ready-to-drink wines that aren’t just worse versions of expensive wines. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
voyager Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 We need to remember that "back in the day", young wines were often/usually undrinkable, hence laying them down, often for a generation. Enter modern winemaking and one doesn't have to wait to drink their father's wine to drink well. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted September 1, 2020 Author Share Posted September 1, 2020 But there ARE still wines -- trad Barolos, good Bordeaux, etc. -- that simply don't drink well young. And, in fact, "modern" Barolos vinified to drink well young kind of suck. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted September 1, 2020 Author Share Posted September 1, 2020 Another interesting point is that natural wines, which reject "modern" winemaking, DO tend to drink well young (in fact, it's questionable whether they can age). 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
voyager Posted September 1, 2020 Share Posted September 1, 2020 37 minutes ago, Sneakeater said: But there ARE still wines -- trad Barolos, good Bordeaux, etc. -- that simply don't drink well young. And, in fact, "modern" Barolos vinified to drink well young kind of suck. Indeed. But I thought that your point, the point of this thread, was that alternatives exist for those who want to drink here and now and without ransoming the ranch. . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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