mitchells Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Wilfrid, Obviously we're in almost complete agreement. The initial contention was that the NY board is precisely the MF board where one would be most likely to run across people who didn't know what "audible" meant. Again, it is a fucking food board!!!! Food boards in Chicago and Boston will provide the same results!!!!!!!!!!!!! Hell no!!! in Boston????? no way Jose. more to the point, why the hell do you assume that interests in food and in sports are mutually exclusive (Jared Allen would tell you otherwise )? I don't see any reason for that assumption at all. rather, I'd bet that the subset of foodies who are sports fans is significantly larger (in percentage terms) than the subset of sports fans who are foodies. further, unless it's some misguided classism about sports (which I do assert exists in some circles in NY), I don't know why you would think that foodies are any less likely to be into sports (of any kind) than the general population. The groups aren't mutually exclusive but they are self selecting groups. If someone has chosen to spend a lot of time on a food board they are automatically less like the general population. Of course there are people on here and other food boards who are passionate about sports but not even close to the percentage that is on a sports related board. And even if you disagree, I doubt there are any differences by city. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nathan Posted January 24, 2011 Author Share Posted January 24, 2011 Nathan, I have two questions for you - do you think someone can be a sports fan and not care about football? Would someone who liked baseball only? Or just basketball? be a sports fan in your book? Additionally, is going to bars to watch games a requirement to being a sports fan? I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, but I feel like you think the only sport that amounts to anything is football. Just because someone doesn't know what an audible is doesn't mean they're not a sports fan. It just means they don't know football terminology. Maybe you should ask for a mulligan and start a new argument. not at all. baseball is my preference actually. but you're completely misreading the thread. I'l say again what I've said many times: in most American cities sports (or a sport) is one of the two or three primary threads of civic culture. in NY there are no primary threads, instead there are multitudes. it's really a very simple point. That's not what you said. What you said was "NY is sports averse" those are two different things. dude. I've said 500 things on this thread. I said the above 50 times. I made the "averse" comment once...and it was an exaggeration (and I"ve said as much up the thread). you keep telling people that Nathan, maybe it'll work with some of the people some of the time. That's fine. I'm not going to escalate this. I said the one thing once...I said the other thing 50 times. QED. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
g.johnson Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Perhaps in future you could flag statements that you don't mean at the time you post them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hollywood Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Nathan, I have two questions for you - do you think someone can be a sports fan and not care about football? Would someone who liked baseball only? Or just basketball? be a sports fan in your book? Additionally, is going to bars to watch games a requirement to being a sports fan? I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, but I feel like you think the only sport that amounts to anything is football. Just because someone doesn't know what an audible is doesn't mean they're not a sports fan. It just means they don't know football terminology. Maybe you should ask for a mulligan and start a new argument. not at all. baseball is my preference actually. but you're completely misreading the thread. I'l say again what I've said many times: in most American cities sports (or a sport) is one of the two or three primary threads of civic culture. in NY there are no primary threads, instead there are multitudes. it's really a very simple point. That's not what you said. What you said was "NY is sports averse" those are two different things. dude. I've said 500 things on this thread. I said the above 50 times. I made the "averse" comment once...and it was an exaggeration (and I"ve said as much up the thread). you keep telling people that Nathan, maybe it'll work with some of the people some of the time. That's fine. I'm not going to escalate this. I said the one thing once...I said the other thing 50 times. QED. How about crab legs at 20 paces? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Johnson Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Nathan, I have two questions for you - do you think someone can be a sports fan and not care about football? Would someone who liked baseball only? Or just basketball? be a sports fan in your book? Additionally, is going to bars to watch games a requirement to being a sports fan? I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, but I feel like you think the only sport that amounts to anything is football. Just because someone doesn't know what an audible is doesn't mean they're not a sports fan. It just means they don't know football terminology. Maybe you should ask for a mulligan and start a new argument. not at all. baseball is my preference actually. but you're completely misreading the thread. I'l say again what I've said many times: in most American cities sports (or a sport) is one of the two or three primary threads of civic culture. in NY there are no primary threads, instead there are multitudes. it's really a very simple point. That's not what you said. What you said was "NY is sports averse" those are two different things. either way he is wrong. Only in NYC are there more than one or two "primary threads of civic culture" beyond sports? Come on. That's just offensive. It's typical Nathan. Take an absurd position and then attempt to defend it by retreating and backpedaling for twenty pages. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nathan Posted January 24, 2011 Author Share Posted January 24, 2011 Nathan, I have two questions for you - do you think someone can be a sports fan and not care about football? Would someone who liked baseball only? Or just basketball? be a sports fan in your book? Additionally, is going to bars to watch games a requirement to being a sports fan? I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, but I feel like you think the only sport that amounts to anything is football. Just because someone doesn't know what an audible is doesn't mean they're not a sports fan. It just means they don't know football terminology. Maybe you should ask for a mulligan and start a new argument. not at all. baseball is my preference actually. but you're completely misreading the thread. I'l say again what I've said many times: in most American cities sports (or a sport) is one of the two or three primary threads of civic culture. in NY there are no primary threads, instead there are multitudes. it's really a very simple point. That's not what you said. What you said was "NY is sports averse" those are two different things. either way he is wrong. Only in NYC are there more than one or two "primary threads of civic culture" beyond sports? Come on. That's just offensive. It's typical Nathan. Take an absurd position and then attempt to defend it by retreating and backpedaling for twenty pages. look up the definition of "primary" my statement was tautological. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Johnson Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Nathan, I have two questions for you - do you think someone can be a sports fan and not care about football? Would someone who liked baseball only? Or just basketball? be a sports fan in your book? Additionally, is going to bars to watch games a requirement to being a sports fan? I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, but I feel like you think the only sport that amounts to anything is football. Just because someone doesn't know what an audible is doesn't mean they're not a sports fan. It just means they don't know football terminology. Maybe you should ask for a mulligan and start a new argument. not at all. baseball is my preference actually. but you're completely misreading the thread. I'l say again what I've said many times: in most American cities sports (or a sport) is one of the two or three primary threads of civic culture. in NY there are no primary threads, instead there are multitudes. it's really a very simple point. That's not what you said. What you said was "NY is sports averse" those are two different things. either way he is wrong. Only in NYC are there more than one or two "primary threads of civic culture" beyond sports? Come on. That's just offensive. It's typical Nathan. Take an absurd position and then attempt to defend it by retreating and backpedaling for twenty pages. look up the definition of "primary" my statement was tautological. look up the definition of backpedaling. hint: you are doing it now. your statement is both circular and wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hollywood Posted January 24, 2011 Share Posted January 24, 2011 Nathan, I have two questions for you - do you think someone can be a sports fan and not care about football? Would someone who liked baseball only? Or just basketball? be a sports fan in your book? Additionally, is going to bars to watch games a requirement to being a sports fan? I'm not trying to put words in your mouth, but I feel like you think the only sport that amounts to anything is football. Just because someone doesn't know what an audible is doesn't mean they're not a sports fan. It just means they don't know football terminology. Maybe you should ask for a mulligan and start a new argument. not at all. baseball is my preference actually. but you're completely misreading the thread. I'l say again what I've said many times: in most American cities sports (or a sport) is one of the two or three primary threads of civic culture. in NY there are no primary threads, instead there are multitudes. it's really a very simple point. That's not what you said. What you said was "NY is sports averse" those are two different things. either way he is wrong. Only in NYC are there more than one or two "primary threads of civic culture" beyond sports? Come on. That's just offensive. It's typical Nathan. Take an absurd position and then attempt to defend it by retreating and backpedaling for twenty pages. look up the definition of "primary" my statement was tautological. look up the definition of backpedaling. hint: you are doing it now. your statement is both circular and wrong. Sustained! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nathan Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 well I can see the IQ level has really dropped here. you can't have a bunch of "primary" anythings. then they wouldn't be "primary"....use English much? that's why in NY there are no primary cultures...just an almost infinite number of "secondary" ones. I've said this over and over again...(as has Wilfrid)....but you're clearly just going to keep reading what you want to read instead...much easier to argue with a strawman. considering I'm saying the same thing on page 8 of this thread that I said on page 2 I fail to see the "backpedaling" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
splinky Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 strawman Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hollywood Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 well I can see the IQ level has really dropped here. Thus, the inevitable consequence of making one like me an Admin. Alas. Deal with it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wilfrid Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Of course, one readily concedes Ron's point that many other cities do have small, beleaguered populations of single women and gay people who maintain an interest in water colors and theater societies while dreaming of moving to New York to get away from the sports talk. :take cover: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Nathan Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 Of course, one readily concedes Ron's point that many other cities do have small, beleaguered populations of single women and gay people who maintain an interest in water colors and theater societies while dreaming of moving to New York to get away from the sports talk. :take cover: obviously I agree with him on this too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lex Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Of course, one readily concedes Ron's point that many other cities do have small, beleaguered populations of single women and gay people who maintain an interest in water colors and theater societies while dreaming of moving to New York to get away from the sports talk. Those cities are easy to spot. They have dozens of Ballet Bars. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wilfrid Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 No, they can't support that. They have ballet meet-up groups which take over one bar for two hours once a month. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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