joethefoodie Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Exactly! He could also add broth to the menu. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Orik Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Which do you think is more profitable - Empellon Cocina or Empellon Taqueria? I just walked by Cocina. Advertising cheeseburger tacos. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lex Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Who implied that Dave isn't talented or creative? Sometimes, in order to get to the mountain-top, you have to be able to buy the climbing gear. Which do you think is more profitable - Empellon Cocina or Empellon Taqueria? I read a quote from Danny Meyer recently where he said Shake Shack was funding EMP in the early days. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joethefoodie Posted June 6, 2015 Share Posted June 6, 2015 Right. There's no way at all that I would ever want Dave to stop being the talented, creative chef that he is. He cooks with love; that much is obvious. But if he could be that chef say one day a week (e.g. Nossa Mesa-ish), and support that and himself and his staff by making money selling the best Nashville hot chicken this side of, well, Nashville - would that be a bad thing? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted June 6, 2015 Author Share Posted June 6, 2015 Yes. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted June 6, 2015 Author Share Posted June 6, 2015 Who wants to live in a city where a chef as talented as Dave has to limit himself to one vernacular dish to support himself? The food scene here has dumbed down -- but I hope not THAT much. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joethefoodie Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I just disagree. How is it dumbing down the food scene if you cook the best of something? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted June 7, 2015 Author Share Posted June 7, 2015 Because hot fried chicken (much as I love it) is a dumber dish than most of what Dave cooks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted June 7, 2015 Author Share Posted June 7, 2015 Keeps going that way, there will be nothing in New York but burgers, fried chicken, and tacos -- all done fabulously well, of course (by chefs who ought to be doing better). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joethefoodie Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Don't forget brodo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
StephanieL Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 San Jose will be happy to take him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oakapple Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I know Dave doesn't like me but it seems like an extreme step just to avoid our coming reservation I think it was my success in securing a reservation by email that caused Frej to close. We were the daily double: I had one too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wilfrid Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Yes! Enough to cause any restaurant to shut up shop. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SobaAddict70 Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 "I mean how many times have we all heard it at this point? It used to be small fish like myself and Grano, restaurants that people supported but not big players," Santos says. "But now you see even the big fish are suffering, closing their spaces because they realize they won't survive and make money at these new rents." "We are talking about places that are institutions like Union Square Café whose profit margins are much higher than places like Louro. If they can't stand a chance, how do the rest of us?" http://gothamist.com/2015/06/18/west_village_louro_ouest.php Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oakapple Posted June 18, 2015 Share Posted June 18, 2015 That report has a bit of an EVGrieve-ish slant to it, referring to landlords as "obscene" and "under-handed". Emotionally, I'm on Dave's side. Realistically, the land is the landlord's property, and he can charge for its use whatever he thinks he can get. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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