Behemoth Posted August 19, 2022 Author Share Posted August 19, 2022 We also got to try the inaugural sauvignon from Abrahams yesterday, straight from the tank. Gets bottled today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anthony Bonner Posted August 19, 2022 Share Posted August 19, 2022 yeah well I'm going to Hershey Park next week so there. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Behemoth Posted August 22, 2022 Author Share Posted August 22, 2022 I liked this article from Emiko Davis, Interviewing her Italian sommelier husband. https://emikodavies.substack.com/p/wine-is-not-natural It echos a lot of what we have seen meeting winemakers in Südtirol. And the stuff they’re making isn’t ”hipster” at all, generally very elegant and well balanced, bringing out the characteristics of the grape with as little manipulation as possible. All backed by an insane amount of craftsmanship and knowledge. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anthony Bonner Posted August 22, 2022 Share Posted August 22, 2022 It so much fun watching people from other geographies litigate the phrase "Natural Wine" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Steve R. Posted August 23, 2022 Share Posted August 23, 2022 Thank you B for that article. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 I drink a lot of wines that are biodynamic but not "Natural". They're some of my favorite things to drink: you get all the purity, but some nights you don't want to be challenged by weirdness, no matter how "glou-glou" it is. Wines like that get no love in New York. The Cool Kids make like they don't exist. Or aren't worth thinking about. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted August 26, 2022 Share Posted August 26, 2022 And speaking of the Sudtirol, I just noticed what's happened to the prices of Nusserhof (at least here in New York). I was stunned (although I shouldn't have even been surprised). There with Occhipinti among the wines I can no longer bring myself to buy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tubbs Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 @Behemoth after years of reading this thread we are finally going to make it to the Dolomites at the end of August. Now to figure out the details....we will be flying in and out of Milan. Current idea would be 4 nights at the Holzner with the other 4 "free" nights split between Venice and either someone on the lake or maybe just more time in Milan, or maybe two nights in Merano? As I've never been to Venice I don't want to skip it this trip as who knows when we'll be back. Q also for @Anthony Bonner, did you rent a car? Is it necessary? It seems like the trains can get us to and from Milan fairly easily I'm just not sure if we'd want to have a car while at the hotel. Holzner has 4 night minimum the week we are looking so also wondering if it makes sense to find different accomodations where we can hop around a bit more in the time we have... thanks for the inspiration! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anthony Bonner Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Super jealous. One of those places that if I lived in London rather than NYC I would go all the time. We did not rent a car. One caveat - its longer than it looks from the Bolzano train station to the Cablecar station. I was lugging a two year old in a carrier and we had a duffel filled with essentially things like a 3 year old and a 5 year old need. It was rough. That said - the Holzner is great if you have kids - but it seems like there are lots of equally great places in that part of the world - especially if you have older kids. IIRC @Behemoth has mostly moved on to other places as her kids have gotten older. I think the no car thing worked really well there because you have the little local rail line you take around the immediate area. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tubbs Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Thanks. Will look around, our kids are 5 and 10...so getting to the "older" range. Seems like trains are the way to go in the mountains there and Switzerland as well....driving could lead to divorce. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anthony Bonner Posted November 19, 2022 Share Posted November 19, 2022 Hmm. IDK then maybe worth it? For some reason I didn't realize we had similarly aged children. 5 is def a good age there. I think 10 would be as well? the only issue is the Holzner kid programs are in German.. We were there after the camp had closed for the season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Behemoth Posted November 20, 2022 Author Share Posted November 20, 2022 It depends on what you like to do. Merano is a fixed point in the year for us as it has a good combination of town for the evening, with phenomenal alpine hiking close by for the day. That said the hiking is much easier to get to with a car. We stay at Ottmanngut. It's not remotely a children's hotel but we've been going there since the kids were 2 years and 3 months respectively and in the meantime the owners also have small kids. If you decide to spend time in Merano I can give you a long list of stuff we like in the area. But really, for me the reason to go to Alto Adige is to be in the Alps. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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