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Juni gets a website.   From the Times article:     Opens Monday in the Hotel Chandler in midtown.

20+40+15=60.   Oh dear. Or rather, "huh"?

Why not stop over-ordering?   And three starters at Juni would be more expensive than The Elm unless you ordered the three most expensive small plates at The Elm.

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Like, seriously. The Elm was ~$90 a head both times I was there. The 4-course at Juni, which is comparable (but not as good), is $90 on the spot.

 

The starters are broadly comparable with the small plates at The Elm (though, again, not as good), and $20 is a representative cost for the smaller plates at The Elm (at least the ones that are similar to the starters at Juni).

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I am very happy for you that you can eat at The Elm for $60. It's unfortunate that $60 is not representative of the cost of a typical meal there for almost anybody else.

 

It's not about who is eating there. It's about the prices which are printed on the menu. The minimum you can possibly spend at Juni on a three course meal is $75. It's easy to eat courses at The Elm for $60.

 

Whether you can do it or not is really beside the point.

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Like, seriously. The Elm was ~$90 a head both times I was there. The 4-course at Juni, which is comparable (but not as good), is $90 on the spot.

 

 

Yes, but you think a typical, representative meal at The Elm involves a diner eating the equivalent of a share plate designed for two all by himself, plus a couple of appetizers and dessert.

 

Now you are welcome to think that's typical...

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I am very happy for you that you can eat at The Elm for $60. It's unfortunate that $60 is not representative of the cost of a typical meal there for almost anybody else.

Both Daniel and Suzanne spent considerably more.

 

 

But you can't spend less than $75 on three courses at Juni.

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The hypothesis is that only a very eccentric pair of diners, confronted by the menu at The Elm, would order a small plate each, a plate to share, and a couple of desserts. This is represented as marginal, almost deviant behavior.

 

And the only reason it's represented this way is that it's the only way to support the claim that The Elm is as expensive as Juni (or The Modern), when it obviously isn't.

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If I can eat in the lounge at Daniel for less than The Elm does that mean that Daniel is less expensive than The Elm? Yes, you can eat at The Elm for $60 in food but all Taion is saying is that doesn't reflect what typical diners will spend. And in most cases on The Elm thread, people have spent considerably more.

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:rolleyes:

 

It's the same amount of over-ordering that a normal 3-course starter-main-dessert is. This is why 3 starters at Juni is a relevant comparison - actually the most relevant comparison.

 

The veal tenderloin at Juni is actually a good example - it's about 50% bigger than the beef small plate at The Elm, and is priced accordingly (if you were to order ALC).

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It's the same as what you get if you just order three small plates at The Elm.

 

What are you talking about?

 

If you order three desserts at The Elm it's cheaper than Juni, and most of the small plates are cheaper than Juni's appetizers.

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