voyager Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 Indeed. Waiters/Somms are THERE to answer even the most banal questions. Diners can only appear stupid by pretending to know more than they do. If staff can’t explain and describe the wines they offer, it means they’re in the wrong job. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 I think the problem is that Sietsema didn’t know enough to ask, as he didn’t know there were off-dry wines that would be served with savories. In his narrow Italian/Mediterranean-focused wine world (so different from his assertedly global food world), every white is crisp and fresh (he knows he’s supposed to avoid New World whites — although what’s being done in the Finger Lakes now would throw him for a loop). What’s to ask? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted August 22, 2021 Share Posted August 22, 2021 (Rereading the piece these years later, I can’t help but wonder whether all the other wines he didn’t like were Natural, and he just didn’t yet know about that style.) 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wilfrid Posted August 24, 2021 Share Posted August 24, 2021 On 8/21/2021 at 12:12 PM, Sneakeater said: (I see they excised the part where he accused the winelist of being fraudulent.) One highlight of the whole affair for me was Grieco putting this comment prominently on the Terroir wine list: "I don't know who Paul Grieco is, and it's not my job to find out." 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sweatshorts Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 https://ny.eater.com/2021/8/25/22641183/carne-mare-steakhouse-best-gorgonzola-wagyu-strip-steak-nyc "ode to earth, fat, and funk." "be it the iron-y, roast beefy tang of the flesh" "that heady aroma" "packing a mid-level musk" "pure, concentrated beefiness" If you've read one Sutton review, you've read them all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
small h Posted August 25, 2021 Share Posted August 25, 2021 That reminds me, I should wash my workout clothes. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wilfrid Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 I hope they're not veering "into putrid territory." I think if I'm paying that much they can leave the Gorgonzola on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wilfrid Posted August 26, 2021 Share Posted August 26, 2021 Quote "I usually stop eating a steakhouse steak after a few bites because it starts to bore me with its flat sameness, a generic meatiness that recalls chewy, textured salt water. I also don’t typically like eating at places that perpetuate the endless stream of new steakhouses that always seem to pop up in shiny new developments." Oh you poor precious thing you. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sweatshorts Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Sutton seems to not be a fan of the new EMP but also ate the "eggplant dish of the century" there. Abstaining from stars is already confusing. It does, however, feature most of my favorite Sutton words, even though there's no meat to discuss. https://ny.eater.com/22650875/eleven-madison-park-review-vegan-menu-dishes-price-2021 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 In a different piece, for once I agree with every word Sutton has written. https://ny.eater.com/2021/9/1/22651234/eater-drops-restaurant-stars-reviews Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Orik Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Your error is that you read and write for a living while most folks do neither. With no stars the economy of keeping reviewers around simply vanishes, unless they all turn the final paragraph into a star equivalent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 The Times seems to be surviving without starred movie, theater, book, art exhibition, and automotive reviews. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Orik Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 I'm not sure when Eater last published a review, but I think this is their way of weaseling out of it altogether. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Orik Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 Oh, I see, they published a review saying how much EMP Vegan sucks but were terrified of grading it. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
small h Posted September 2, 2021 Share Posted September 2, 2021 4 hours ago, Orik said: I'm not sure when Eater last published a review https://ny.eater.com/2021/8/25/22641183/carne-mare-steakhouse-best-gorgonzola-wagyu-strip-steak-nyc Do the Buy/Sell/Hold things count? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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