Sneakeater Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Here, I'll bold the this-must-be-a-typo part: Quote LF: I don’t think it was as expensive as I expected, which is maybe a hot take. I think the price of eating out at these fancy Manhattan restaurants really has become like $100 a person now if you buy an appetizer, a drink, a main, and then tip accordingly. OR: Quote LF: I don’t think it was as expensive as I expected, which is maybe a hot take. I think the price of eating out at these fancy Manhattan restaurants really has become like $100 a person now if you buy an appetizer, a drink, a main, and then tip accordingly. If anyone can show me a fancy Manhattan restaurant where you can pay only $100 a person now for an appetizer, drink, main, and appropriate tip, I'd love to see it. If anyone can show me a mid-priced Brooklyn restaurant where you'd pay less, I'd love to see that, too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
voyager Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 36 minutes ago, Sneakeater said: Here, I'll bold the this-must-be-a-typo part: OR: If anyone can show me a fancy Manhattan restaurant where you can pay only $100 a person now for an appetizer, drink, main, and appropriate tip, I'd love to see it. If anyone can show me a mid-priced Brooklyn restaurant where you'd pay less, I'd love to see that, too. Or in San Francisco or Milpitas. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wilfrid Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Yes, a ridiculous article top to bottom. Eater staff treated by the restaurant. Waste of space. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seth Gordon Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 4 hours ago, Sneakeater said: This MUST be a typo: Quote LF: I don’t think it was as expensive as I expected, which is maybe a hot take. I think the price of eating out at these fancy Manhattan restaurants really has become like $100 a person now if you buy an appetizer, a drink, a main, and then tip accordingly. 3 hours ago, small h said: I don't see anything in the quote that gives me pause. The $100, maybe? I mean, these days $100/pp at a “fancy” restaurant would be cheap. We just had dinner at La Mercerie - a not-that-fancy restaurant in a fancy restaurant’s clothes - with a shared dessert and one of the cheapest bottles of wine, and it was around $300 for the two of us. Our meal at Foul Witch clocked in around the same, and that was without a protein main. (Granted, we had more than “a” drink in both cases.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Seth Gordon Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 3 hours ago, Sneakeater said: If anyone can show me a fancy Manhattan restaurant where you can pay only $100 a person now for an appetizer, drink, main, and appropriate tip, I'd love to see it. Ah, okay. Now I’m pickin’ up what you’re puttin’ down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 My homie Luke must eat out exclusively at El Gran Castillo de Jagua, with the occasional splurge at Mitchell's Soul Food. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 4 hours ago, Wilfrid said: Yes, a ridiculous article top to bottom. Eater staff treated by the restaurant. Waste of space. But what's even worse -- although this is probably what you meant -- is that most of them were obviously unfamiliar with upper-level dining. There's nothing wrong with that as a life characteristic. But how THE FUCK do you get to be a professional food writer with such a huge gap in your experience? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joethefoodie Posted March 7 Author Share Posted March 7 11 hours ago, Sneakeater said: If anyone can show me a fancy Manhattan restaurant where you can pay only $100 a person now for an appetizer, drink, main, and appropriate tip, I'd love to see it. If anyone can show me a mid-priced Brooklyn restaurant where you'd pay less, I'd love to see that, too. Yes. 10 hours ago, Wilfrid said: Yes, a ridiculous article top to bottom. Eater staff treated by the restaurant. Waste of space. Yes. 8 hours ago, Seth Gordon said: I mean, these days $100/pp at a “fancy” restaurant would be cheap. We just had dinner at La Mercerie - a not-that-fancy restaurant in a fancy restaurant’s clothes - with a shared dessert and one of the cheapest bottles of wine, and it was around $300 for the two of us. Our meal at Foul Witch clocked in around the same, and that was without a protein main. (Granted, we had more than “a” drink in both cases.) Yes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GerryOlds Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 9 hours ago, Sneakeater said: But what's even worse -- although this is probably what you meant -- is that most of them were obviously unfamiliar with upper-level dining. There's nothing wrong with that as a life characteristic. But how THE FUCK do you get to be a professional food writer with such a huge gap in your experience? Because unless you're a writer with a trust fund, you're probably not making enough to be able to afford upper-level dining with any kind of regularity (press dinners notwithstanding). I also think that intimate familiarity with fine dining is becoming less prioritized as a sign of expertise by certain outlets, even if those restaurants have to get covered. Plus, with the state of media these days, it's hard to find and retain experienced talent. Speaking as a food editor who makes just over the poverty threshold, the only way I was able to become acquainted with the city's top restaurants was when I had a generously flexible (sadly long gone) dining budget. Only by the grace of public relations was I able to eat at Sushi Noz. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 How THE FUCK can you be a professional food writer without a dining budget? The death of professional journalism just kills me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 You know, it's one thing to be Calvin Trillin, with a distinctive writing style and a beat, where you're sort of more an essayist than a food writer without portfolio. (Although I guess you'll point out, Gerry, that Trillin had money.) But that's not what someone like Luke Fortney is. Why would I care to know what he thinks about food? He obviously knows much much less than I do. I don't even understand what the qualifications of his job are. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joethefoodie Posted March 7 Author Share Posted March 7 37 minutes ago, Sneakeater said: I don't even understand what the qualifications of his job are. Two hands and a mouth? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
splinky Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 Just now, joethefoodie said: Two hands and a mouth? that's ableist. the only qualification is that someone hired him to say some random stuff about food Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wilfrid Posted March 7 Share Posted March 7 10 hours ago, Sneakeater said: But how THE FUCK do you get to be a professional food writer with such a huge gap in your experience? By being willing and able to work for the salary Vox pays young reporters. Remember, they let Ryan Sutton go, and it wasn't because Fortney, Orlow et al could do a better job than him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted April 10 Share Posted April 10 I find I do not care AT ALL about Robert Sietsima's opinions about Fine Dining places. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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