SethG Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 1 hour ago, MitchW said: But the main problem I have with this is that he was a douche to many employees. And probably a few customers as well. Well there’s that. He seemed to grow out of his douchedom towards customers (oh look, chairs with backs!) - as for his staff, I dunno, heard the tales. But I gather he hasn’t been involved in the day to day of any of his restaurants in a decade or so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mongo Posted October 30, 2023 Share Posted October 30, 2023 he's helped make a lot of people stupider about food via ugly delicious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchW Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 2 hours ago, SethG said: But I gather he hasn’t been involved in the day to day of any of his restaurants in a decade or so. Probably the smartest thing he ever did…or someone helped him do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diancecht Posted October 31, 2023 Author Share Posted October 31, 2023 4 hours ago, SethG said: 2023 David Chang is a west coast suburban dad. if you are involved with vc, you may have heard something about this in 2016. it looks like momofuku goods raised $11.5m in its latest round. this company was the lead investor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AaronS Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 5 hours ago, bloviatrix said: Speaking of which, didn't he post handful of times on MF? I recall quite a bit of heavy-duty snark. his posts in the ssäm bar thread were incredible. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve R. Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 And were mostly in response to a "situation" that I, and several other MF members, had experienced at Ssam Bar & written about. I never went to any of his places afterwards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Bonner Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 I've told my story before of a manager at Ssam challenging a guest to fight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilfrid Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 He was always nice to me, that's the main thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Bonner Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 I mean the guest did deserve to get thrown out. I just thought the invitation to donnybrook a bit much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backyardchef Posted October 31, 2023 Share Posted October 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Anthony Bonner said: I've told my story before of a manager at Ssam challenging a guest to fight. I believe Danny Meyer calls this hospitality trait, 're-centering the salt shaker.' 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diancecht Posted October 31, 2023 Author Share Posted October 31, 2023 “The funny thing is — I don’t even know if you guys know this — we never even wanted to have a fancy restaurant. The original version of Ko was a $75 tasting menu,” he said. “I didn’t open Momofuku to get glory or to have a sommelier — all these things we ended up having.” uh huh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mongo Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 i have no memory of chang participating on mf. and thanks to the old site disappearing, i don't have to read it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relbbaddoof Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 I think there was a threat that if the geriatrics here were unpleasant to his staff again they'd need more than walkers to get around. But geriatrics are not strong on memo -- what was that word again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relbbaddoof Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) As a general comment, Ssäm having been my source for country häm for many years (which ham you could take away from the restaurant), I view the entire Chang operation through ham-tinted glässes. Consider this order from 2017ish (all prices per 1/4lb): Lady Edison $20 Finchville (mildish) $12 Benton's (saltish) $12 Broadbent (slightly smokish) $12 Edward's wigwam (oddly coffeeish) $13 Woodlands mountain (fatty) $22 (strangely, no Edwards Surryano in this order). What did I do with all this ham (and I bought 1/2lb in most cases)? I flew the lot to Boston and inflicted it on our international Thanksgiving dinner crowd along with cheeses from Cato Corner (they sent me cheeses at various stages of maturity -- young Womanchego, Womanchego, and Mrs. Robinson -- among others), and said this is how we eat in America. Edited November 1, 2023 by relbbaddoof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orik Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 Well 2017 was after the fire at Surry so that's why no Surryano. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relbbaddoof Posted November 1, 2023 Share Posted November 1, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, Orik said: Well 2017 was after the fire at Surry so that's why no Surryano. Ah, yes. ETA: On looking through my spotty records, I find that I seem to have started getting it again in February 2018, first at Ssäm, then also from Heritage. Edited November 1, 2023 by relbbaddoof Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backyardchef Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 (edited) Whoa. Chang trying to trademark Chili/Chile Crunch and put the other condiment makers in that market out of business. Apparently saying Chili Crisp is ok. Trademark Bully Edited April 4 by backyardchef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orik Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Quote Tew described receiving the letter as “a punch in the gut”. Momfuku’s Chang, who is of Korean descent, has helped to push Asian food forward into the mainstream, she said. “If Kraft Heinz hit me up [with a cease-and-desist] it would have been so distressing,” says Tew, “but the fact that it was Momofuku makes me feel really, really sad.” Err... Quote Momofuku partnered with Springboard, a new platform from Kraft Heinz dedicated to accelerating the growth of disruptive brands within the food and beverage space, to bring Ssäm Sauce to retail nationwide. Momofuku’s Culinary Lab collaborated closely with Springboard to scale up the original Ssäm Sauce recipe for national distribution and to develop the new Smoky and Spicy flavors. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneakeater Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Mean Old Lady could beat the shit out of Chang. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneakeater Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Also, what exactly does it mean when a major industry player seeks to be "disruptive"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneakeater Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 Can we have our Revolution already? This Capitalism stuff is getting unbearable. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backyardchef Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 2 minutes ago, Sneakeater said: Mean Old Lady could beat the shit out of Chang. Show your work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
small h Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 1 hour ago, Sneakeater said: Can we have our Revolution already? This Capitalism stuff is getting unbearable. Wait, I need to buy more canned food. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relbbaddoof Posted April 4 Share Posted April 4 42 minutes ago, small h said: more canned food Your stash of Güeyu Mar tins will be the first thing that the SRB (Sneakeater Revolutionary Brigade) will come for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
small h Posted April 5 Share Posted April 5 3 hours ago, relbbaddoof said: Your stash of Güeyu Mar tins will be the first thing that the SRB (Sneakeater Revolutionary Brigade) will come for. Excuse me while I bury them under the floorboards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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