cstuart Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Chambo is the fifth Koch brother. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hollywood Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Chambo is the fifth Koch brother. ROM1040L Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SFJoe Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 That's so true. 82 Petrus has only 7% more quality in it than 05 Belair and that's just a scientific fact. I know you're joking, but in all seriousness it actually is a fact that people can't even tell red wine from white in blind tests. As long as I can pick the "people," the "red wine," and the "white wine," I bet I can make this true every time. I bet I could also consistently arrange the opposite outcome with different choices. I would bet large sums. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
balex Posted August 23, 2014 Author Share Posted August 23, 2014 If you can pick the people then it's easy -- but what would your choice of wine be to make it maximally confusing. No cheating with skin-contact whites! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LiquidNY Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I read one story where a guy poured the same exact wine three times to a panel of tasting experts and none of them noticed - in fact they gave it three completely different ratings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Creasey Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 A common trick with blind tastings is to provide two pours of the same wine, even from the same bottle. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LiquidNY Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Wine tasting notes generator. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SFJoe Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 Wine tasting notes generator. These are the same people who give out points. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SFJoe Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 I read one story where a guy poured the same exact wine three times to a panel of tasting experts and none of them noticed - in fact they gave it three completely different ratings. A friend of mine was recently forced to taste wines in in FMRI experiment. It turns out it's different delivered by tube when you're lying on your back in a noisy machine. They then had him blind taste the tough panel, which he correctly spotted as 7 each of 2 different wines. They told him that most of their subjects didn't know. So it can be done. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SFJoe Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 But given everything we know about taste perception, a second glass of the same wine isn't the same wine, if you know what I mean. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SFJoe Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 If you can pick the people then it's easy -- but what would your choice of wine be to make it maximally confusing. No cheating with skin-contact whites! Well, that would be one easy cheat. Reds without much tannin would be another. Oaky whites tannic from their barrels. Poulsard. Carbonic anything. That kind of thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Orik Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 You don't even have to go outside Ganevat's repertoire to create a highly misleading tasting. But I've seen people with deep cellars and self-esteems mistake obvious whites for obvious reds. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SFJoe Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 But I've seen people with deep cellars and self-esteems mistake obvious .... [obvious dreck for something worth $$$, obvious hype for the same, obvious this and obvious that.] I don't suppose that anyone here thinks that money and ego=expertise. Former participants notwithstanding. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
splinky Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 wait... isn't ed koch dead? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SFJoe Posted August 23, 2014 Share Posted August 23, 2014 You don't even have to go outside Ganevat's repertoire to create a highly misleading tasting. Very true. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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