Rich Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 To note - I have never ordered a wine pairing and probably never will. I would rather choose a bad wine or two or three all on my own. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 The so-so was the Beerenauslese - too much sweet upon sweet (baked Alaska). Would have gone with a Late Harvest Zin, preferably from Ridge where they constrain the sweetness. I think Kracher is such a great producer that I'll drink anything they release with any dessert. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 To note - I have never ordered a wine pairing and probably never will. I would rather choose a bad wine or two or three all on my own. The problem is if you're having a tasting menu alone. (Which I know you never would do.) Then -- unless the place has a good half-bottles list -- you almost have to go with pairings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Flon Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 To note - I have never ordered a wine pairing and probably never will. I would rather choose a bad wine or two or three all on my own. The problem is if you're having a tasting menu alone. (Which I know you never would do.) Then -- unless the place has a good half-bottles list -- you almost have to go with pairings. Another consideration is that all three of the places I've mentioned (EMP, Atera, Trois Mec) didn't present menus until after you were done with dinner so choosing a wine (if you're looking to match with food) is...challenging. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rich Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 The so-so was the Beerenauslese - too much sweet upon sweet (baked Alaska). Would have gone with a Late Harvest Zin, preferably from Ridge where they constrain the sweetness. I think Kracher is such a great producer that I'll drink anything they release with any dessert. YES, and that's why I said so-so as opposed to no. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rich Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 I would have served the Kracher with the foie - especially with the beans and greens. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anthony Bonner Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 That sancerre has a bunch of RS. They're trying to be cute I think. It's not as crazy as it sounds tho. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Anthony Bonner Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Also I'm super confused by the kracher. It was a beerenauslesen of zweigelt? That sounds undrinkable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 I would have served the Kracher with the foie - especially with the beans and greens. YES. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 I think the Kracher is a Beerenauslese of Zweigelt. Although I've never had it, I'll repeat that everything I've ever had from Kracher is fabulous. And it isn't so crazy: Rich was talking about a late-harvest Zin. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Creasey Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 To note - I have never ordered a wine pairing and probably never will. I would rather choose a bad wine or two or three all on my own. Rich, my sentiments completely. If I'm dining alone, I'll just order a terzo or merzo of an appropriate wine. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rich Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Very true - the red part was fine. I just think that version is too sweet to go with a very sweet Baked Alaska. I've had Beerenauslese from Zweigelt (at Epcot in the German pavilion of all places) and it's very good, but very sweet. Never had the Kracher but agree with Sneak on their reputation. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 To note - I have never ordered a wine pairing and probably never will. I would rather choose a bad wine or two or three all on my own. Rich, my sentiments completely. If I'm dining alone, I'll just order a terzo or merzo of an appropriate wine. The problem is that if you're having a long 11 or 18 course tasting menu, there isn't "an" appropriate wine. The other problem is that places that serve 11 or 18 course tasting menus usually don't offer terzos or mezzos (the bastards!). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Adrian Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 Thoughtful pairings by a serious sommelier can be a great and rewarding thing that you can't necessarily replicate yourself (see eg saturne, club chase et pech). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Peter Creasey Posted February 17, 2017 Share Posted February 17, 2017 On the relatively rare occasions we go out to eat, it is by design to restaurants for their a la carte meals, not tasting menus. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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