voyager Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 He is not his brother's keeper. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daniel Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 5 hours ago, mitchells said: Serious question for @Danieland I'm not trolling: How do you reconcile being a vegan for the reasons you mention and then selling meat and dairy in your stores? I have stated this before.. i have said, i am not without blood on my hands.. I also stated that it's possible I will go back to a non vegan diet.. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 It's funny, but the way you think about eating meat is the way I think about Capitalism. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
voyager Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 19 minutes ago, Sneakeater said: It's funny, but the way you think about eating meat is the way I think about Capitalism. Sentence by sentence... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stone Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 4 hours ago, voyager said: I'd like to point out (to Stone) that Southern European and Latin American lend themselves as well if not better than Asian to vegan diet. Maybe just a difference in palate, but far easier for me. Like the bean dish I posted a couple of days ago. And still lots of opportunities for rice. Also for Stone, the Sunday NYT generally has several excellent vegan recipes as a weekly prompt. HERE is a good site for vegan dishes. I can do vegan pasta, beans, rice. but the Asian stuff looks much lighter. I need to make more soups and broths. Daniel -- do you pickle vegetables? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Orik Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 3 hours ago, Daniel said: . I think in a hundred years people are going to look back at people eating meat and think we are insane. Ghandi said "the most violent weapon on earth is the table fork" and there is no doubt I agree... A century isn't a very long time and you're ignoring the fact that the average (and median) human that is born now and will be born for at least the next 50 years isn't going to be in an enlightened, progressive, eating-disordered environment like ours, so I would take the other side of that thought. But what is happening is that technology for producing meat, blood flavor, etc. is obviously making great strides. I just saw that Singapore has approved some sort of cultured chicken nugget product, and I can't imagine it's less like chicken than whatever McD is selling. It's reasonably safe to think a lot of the mass market will switch to that over the next few decades, which is a good thing. What do you think about the studies showing that veganism lowers life expectancy by more than covid does? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stone Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 I'm not so sure. Morality/Ethics (not sure which is applicable here) have come a long way in the past 100 years, and they seem to be progressing faster. It's possible that in 100 years people are as shocked by eating pigs and cows are we are by Jim Crow laws. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Evelyn Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 53 minutes ago, Orik said: A century isn't a very long time and you're ignoring the fact that the average (and median) human that is born now and will be born for at least the next 50 years isn't going to be in an enlightened, progressive, eating-disordered environment like ours, so I would take the other side of that thought. But what is happening is that technology for producing meat, blood flavor, etc. is obviously making great strides. I just saw that Singapore has approved some sort of cultured chicken nugget product, and I can't imagine it's less like chicken than whatever McD is selling. It's reasonably safe to think a lot of the mass market will switch to that over the next few decades, which is a good thing. What do you think about the studies showing that veganism lowers life expectancy by more than covid does? Yum-o 😵 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Orik Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 56 minutes ago, Stone said: I'm not so sure. Morality/Ethics (not sure which is applicable here) have come a long way in the past 100 years, and they seem to be progressing faster. It's possible that in 100 years people are as shocked by eating pigs and cows are we are by Jim Crow laws. We are? 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joethefoodie Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 1 hour ago, Stone said: I'm not so sure. Morality/Ethics (not sure which is applicable here) have come a long way in the past 100 years, and they seem to be progressing faster. It's possible that in 100 years people are as shocked by eating pigs and cows are we are by Jim Crow laws. 18 minutes ago, Orik said: We are? I was gonna say: tell that to more than half the white voters in this country. But that gets political. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
voyager Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Back to vegan recipes, This Asian inspired vegan broth from William Ledeiul is a foundation for lighter soups. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joethefoodie Posted December 2, 2020 Share Posted December 2, 2020 Vegan broths are fairly easy - I always save trimmings, mushroom stems, etc. etc. They're great as a base for various dishes. I'm interested in this, in the recipe: 1 C. soup Coarse salt Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Orik Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 cuillère à soupe lost in xlation? 😄 I find that all sorts of very slow roasted turnips, kohlrabi, etc. make excellent stock. 1 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
voyager Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 hour ago, joethefoodie said: Vegan broths are fairly easy - I always save trimmings, mushroom stems, etc. etc. They're great as a base for various dishes. I'm interested in this, in the recipe: 1 C. soup Coarse salt i.e., 1 soup spoon or our tablespoon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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