Stone Posted January 19 Share Posted January 19 Fatty Arbuckle? Woody is innocent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
splinky Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 On 1/18/2021 at 8:02 PM, joethefoodie said: But he used his assistants. So the art really has to be attributed to the school of Manson. How Woody Allen fits into this is beyond me. did you not see "to rome with love"? that thing was an almost 2 hour visit to an abattoir Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Unlike, say, Manhattan? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joethefoodie Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Are we talking about convicted murderers, or alleged stuff? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
small h Posted January 20 Author Share Posted January 20 This is all very confusing. Do the accomplished people have to be musicians? Does the crime have to be murder? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
AaronS Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 right, cause if fucking children is wrong... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joethefoodie Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Ask Balthus. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joethefoodie Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 43 minutes ago, small h said: This is all very confusing. Do the accomplished people have to be musicians? Does the crime have to be murder? If we're referencing Spector, music and murder seems to be the connection. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 No reason it has to be music. Wilf’s initial question was about major artists, not just major musicians. (Or at least that’s how I read it. Who knows?) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 But what’s the point of limiting it to musicians? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joethefoodie Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 1 hour ago, Sneakeater said: But what’s the point of limiting it to musicians? Well, I mistakenly thought it was related to Spector's death. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 But the issues are the same for ANY kind of artist, right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wilfrid Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 On 1/18/2021 at 10:27 AM, Sneakeater said: Anyway, I can’t speak for Wilf, but to me those guys are just players. They’re not major artists at the Spector level. Of course. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wilfrid Posted January 20 Share Posted January 20 Yes, what I had in mind was that it's hard to think of many artists at Spector's level who are also murderers (or rapists or pedophiles, if you insist); so that we confront the challenge of threading the needle, as Mongo puts it, rarely. I did know about Gesualdo, but had forgotten. I must look up Caravaggio. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted January 21 Share Posted January 21 On 1/18/2021 at 6:58 PM, Sneakeater said: You hardly even HEAR that Caravaggio was a murderer. I certainly didn't remember it until I saw a reference to it today. Ingrid Rowland, for example, treats the murder as kind of a bothersome distraction: https://www.nybooks.com/articles/1999/10/07/the-real-caravaggio/ Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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