joethefoodie Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 6 hours ago, Wilfrid said: Exactly, exactly. What I am struggling to explain to myself if that when I worked in an office five days a week, I had a great need to get out for an hour in the evening just to get out. Now I work at home, I feel that need much less. Right. And I don't know about anyone else , but sometimes there's just a need for me to see other sentient beings than myself, my cat, and yes, even my wife. Although I perfectly enjoy going out with her, she's even more able to stay home in post-covid times, which comes from her territory of being an introvert. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 It is a little disturbing to me how much more alienated I am than you guys. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (Although I has lucky in having my office-adjacent bars run for a decent period run by (a) Dale DeGroff and (b) Dale DeGroff with Audrey Saunders.) (I STILL went very infrequently, though.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 (This is going to sound pathetic, but I WANTED to get home to my wife.) (It was only after she died that I really started going to bars.) (She died the day Pegu Club opened, portentiously.) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wilfrid Posted January 23 Author Share Posted January 23 Joe has a good point. One’s partner may have completely different needs when it comes to going out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joethefoodie Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 3 hours ago, Wilfrid said: Joe has a good point. One’s partner may have completely different needs when it comes to going out. And, guess what? My partner is married to a great cook - why even bother thinking about going out? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted January 23 Share Posted January 23 You can see the logic of her thinking. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joethefoodie Posted January 24 Share Posted January 24 1 hour ago, Sneakeater said: You can see the logic of her thinking. I married up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Orik Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 At a casual wine bar, a bottle that wholesales for $13 here (so likely $9 in Italy) is $81 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Orik Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 The glass is $18 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
joethefoodie Posted January 25 Share Posted January 25 39 minutes ago, Orik said: At a casual wine bar, a bottle that wholesales for $13 here (so likely $9 in Italy) is $81 We're not allowed to ask where, right? How much does that bottle retail for here is a safer question? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wilfrid Posted January 26 Author Share Posted January 26 Uh huh. Mentioned elsewhere, I drank two perfectly nice Manhattans in a bar yesterday, same price a liter of the exact same rye. It’s a problem, not so much for us as for the bars. Not like they can serve the drinks “at home.” Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 You see, I'm not trying to be tendentious, but that's the point I was trying to make about the kind of bars I'm willing to go to. At "my" bars, I'm not paying a pure mark-up on the ingredients (just as I'm not at a good restaurant). I'm paying for the skill of the person who formulated the drink, as well as of the person making it. I'm paying for their access to a broader range of ingredients than I have (although that is something that changed, with respect to both food AND beverages, during The Lockdown). And better equipment (including ice-making equipment). Even at a wine bar, you're paying for the "curation" of the list. And the ability to try things you might not buy for yourself at home -- even though you usually COULD. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sneakeater Posted January 26 Share Posted January 26 I mean, I could theoretically make a whole range of syrups and cordials to use as mixers at home. But guess what? I'm NOT. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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