St John As You Are

[Orik]

11 hours ago, Sneakeater said:

I remember going to a Rene Redzepi pop-up in a New York restaurant once and there was some kind of crisis because some of the ingredients he was flying in from Denmark got held up at customs, so he had to go out to find local replacements.

Interns require visas even when checked in. 

[AaronS]

the st john instagram says that those are the only dishes they'll be offering.

[Neocon maudit]

Naff.

[Anthony Bonner]

It sounds like its a Drakes event almost.

[joethefoodie]

1 hour ago, AaronS said:

the st john instagram says that those are the only dishes they'll be offering.

Yes - from the website...

 

A curated handful of St. JOHN signature dishes – baked quail eggs with trotter, ox cheek pie, and scoops of the cult Dr. Henderson ice cream – will be available á la carte or all together from March 7–22 for dinner. Over at the bakery, we're serving their madeleines by the half-dozen.

Reservations are limited and highly encouraged. 

[Sneakeater]

The problem, I now realize, is a problem that infects most "visiting kitchen" events.

Unlike what Redzepi attempted, they're not bringing their ingredients with them.  So they're limited to what we have here.  No breeds of beef, lamb, and pork that we don't have.  No English cuts that butchers don't offer here.  No cuts we don't eat here.  No vegetables that don't grow here, or that we don't eat here anyway.

In other words, none of the stuff that makes St. John so special.

[joethefoodie]

On 3/12/2023 at 11:36 AM, joethefoodie said:

I'm of the general opinion that restaurants trying to function and serve food as they do at their home restaurants, are never as good. 

 

[Sneakeater]

I was just expanding on you.

I mean, there are other reasons those things tend not to work, too.

But I think this particular reason explains their kind of lame menu.

[AaronS]

20 hours ago, AaronS said:

I think the food at st john is especially poorly suited to replication elsewhere.

 

[Sneakeater]

It's funny, Aaron, cuz at first I thought, why not?  They use pretty simple techniques.

But when I saw the menu, I realized you were right.

[Wilfrid]

Agree with all the above, but also nobody told me there’s a new Ishmael Reed play at Theater for the New City. 

[Wilfrid]

But yes, the Savoy pop up at least included some signature dishes on a set menu, including the godawful Eccles cakes. Scratch the ice cream and there’s nothing really here.

Oh they did one night only with the good shit. https://stjohnrestaurant.com/products/st-john-in-new-york

[AaronS]

2 hours ago, Sneakeater said:

 They use pretty simple techniques.

that's what I was thinking was the problem. you can roast the shit out of a hepworth farms carrot and it's not gonna taste like what they serve there.

[joethefoodie]

1 hour ago, Wilfrid said:

Oh they did one night only with the good shit. https://stjohnrestaurant.com/products/st-john-in-new-york

This is the one my friends went to, and enjoyed. I demurred.

1 hour ago, AaronS said:

you can roast the shit out of a hepworth farms carrot and it's not gonna taste like what they serve there.

to say nothing of the tiny shrimp I had.

Today's Menu

Roast Kid, Carrots and Mint    32.00

Hake, Fennel and Laverbread   27.00

Roast Squash, Pickled Walnut and Goat's Curd  22.00

Devilled Tripe, Chips and Ketchup  22.00

Crispy Pig's Cheek, Chicory and Red Onion  24.50

Brill, Jerusalem Artichoke and Green Sauce  32.00

Pig Tongues, Chickpea and Anchovy  23.80

 

[Wilfrid]

Where are you finding the menu? I can only find vague blurbs. I checked the onlyasyouare website.