MitchW Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Just read this piece...Le French Diner is where your favorite chefs eat on their nights off. Wherein the writer, one Chris Crowley, crows about how wonderful Le French Diner is, and how chefs love the place... Quote Le French Diner was opened in February 2014 by Aydeniz and Pierre Moulin, who had first come to New York for a three-month vacation in the early aughts. But as I read this, I'm positive we went there before 2014. Many times. Sure enough, there's a review from The New Yorker: Quote ZUCCO: LE FRENCH DINER By Andrea Thompson November 12, 2006 Dated a mere 8 years before this douche believes it opened. But to give old Chris a break, it did close briefly in 2013, before it reopened again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backyardchef Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 22 minutes ago, MitchW said: Dated a mere 8 years before this douche believes it opened. Was there a time when Grub Street had good writing other than Ozersky? I guess Adam Platt gets a pass for his occasional musings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchW Posted December 1, 2023 Author Share Posted December 1, 2023 Just now, backyardchef said: Was there a time when Grub Street had good writing other than Ozersky? I guess Adam Platt gets a pass for his occasional musings. People definitely like/liked Tammie. Although Tammie might have jumped the shark. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerryOlds2TheReturnofGerry Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 I'd like to give Chris the benefit of the doubt since he's done some great work previously, especially at Serious Eats. I'm kind of surprised that there's no mention whatsoever of the original place, though, especially since Grubstreet wrote about how the first owner died at the restaurant. Why do we think Tammie jumped the shark? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
small h Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 It’s an inexcusable oversight, and at least the comments are calling it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backyardchef Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 19 minutes ago, GerryOlds2TheReturnofGerry said: Why do we think Tammie jumped the shark? Who is Tammie? I gave up and food writers so this is all a mystery to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orik Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Well when Zucco died it definitely closed and changed the name accordingly but yeah, we were there many times in the late 00s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backyardchef Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 You have to pay for grub street. No wonder I couldn't be bothered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilfrid Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 I remember Zucco. It was fun in those days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchW Posted December 1, 2023 Author Share Posted December 1, 2023 12 minutes ago, Orik said: Well when Zucco died it definitely closed and changed the name accordingly but yeah, we were there many times in the late 00s Apparently, it stayed open for 3 years after Zucco died in 2010. Then closed and reopened a few months later, no? The name changed with the removal of his name, but I think was always called Le French Diner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchW Posted December 1, 2023 Author Share Posted December 1, 2023 41 minutes ago, GerryOlds2TheReturnofGerry said: Why do we think Tammie jumped the shark? Now I forget...and then I stopped reading. 18 minutes ago, backyardchef said: You have to pay for grub street. No wonder I couldn't be bothered. I think I got it for $1 for a year. Which might be up soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orik Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 6 minutes ago, MitchW said: Apparently, it stayed open for 3 years after Zucco died in 2010. Then closed and reopened a few months later, no? The name changed with the removal of his name, but I think was always called Le French Diner. You're probably right about the timeline. Also I'm not clear on whether Pierre was an owner during the first round or not, but anyway reporters should do a better job with the facts. It is something of an Industry hangout for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchW Posted December 1, 2023 Author Share Posted December 1, 2023 7 minutes ago, Orik said: It is something of an Industry hangout for sure. This is really interesting to me. Is the wine list great or anything? Or just cause it's such a tiny, "exclusive" place? 51 minutes ago, GerryOlds2TheReturnofGerry said: Why do we think Tammie jumped the shark? I'll pull back on the jumped the shark comment. Until I can remember what the hell I'm talking about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orik Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 Open Sun, Mon, Tue, until fairly late, no nonsense, wine list is nice. Super Bueno also notable in a very very different manner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mongo Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 i'm a big fan of tammie t. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneakeater Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) Me too. She said one titanically stupid thing a few weeks ago -- that Italian restaurants in America are better than Italian restaurants in Italy -- but even Homer nods. Edited December 2, 2023 by Sneakeater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StephanieL Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 N and I loved going to Zucco. So many good food memories there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchW Posted December 2, 2023 Author Share Posted December 2, 2023 3 hours ago, Sneakeater said: Me too. She said one titanically stupid thing a few weeks ago -- that Italian restaurants in America are better than Italian restaurants in Italy -- but even Homer nods. that was it!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mongo Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 14 hours ago, Sneakeater said: Me too. She said one titanically stupid thing a few weeks ago -- that Italian restaurants in America are better than Italian restaurants in Italy -- but even Homer nods. italian restaurants in new york, but, yes, that is an incredibly wrong-headed take, or a very misguided attempt at stoking controversy-views. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Bonner Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 19 hours ago, MitchW said: Now I forget...and then I stopped reading. I think I got it for $1 for a year. Which might be up soon. you guys know the NYMag paywall is super porous - just use incognito mode. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backyardchef Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 On 12/1/2023 at 7:49 PM, Sneakeater said: Me too. She said one titanically stupid thing a few weeks ago -- that Italian restaurants in America are better than Italian restaurants in Italy -- but even Homer nods. Sounds like a Sietsema Award candidate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchW Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 2 hours ago, backyardchef said: Sounds like a Sietsema Award candidate. No - TT is way more astute than RS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orik Posted December 18, 2023 Share Posted December 18, 2023 On 12/1/2023 at 5:07 PM, Orik said: You're probably right about the timeline. Also I'm not clear on whether Pierre was an owner during the first round or not, but anyway reporters should do a better job with the facts. It is something of an Industry hangout for sure. I checked and Pierre was indeed not an owner at Zucco. eta: also they called to check facts even before including a short text in the latest "best of" list, so I don't think we're looking at the same standard. Why Vox keeps Eater around is anyone's guess (maybe they're cash positive by now given their reduced costs) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerryOlds2TheReturnofGerry Posted January 2 Share Posted January 2 (edited) I know food journalism (along with the rest of the industry) is dying, and I definitely took some liberties when I was getting reimbursed for meals, but the guy who took over from TT as diner-at-large went on a wild corporate card spending spree during his final week of the gig that included dinner at The Grill and taking 21 people to Wu's. I'm honestly impressed. (I can't find a link. It's his latest newsletter.) Edited January 2 by GerryOlds2TheReturnofGerry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchW Posted January 2 Author Share Posted January 2 21 people at Wu's = dinner at the Grill? (unless, of course, you're ordering that crazy Norwegian crab!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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