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yes I appreciate that, but the information is not germane to someone serving me a meal.

 

I'm guessing I could find out lots of things about lots of people online - especially if I'm willing to spend 50 bucks. I don't. It simply doesn't matter to me where Sneak went to law school, nor does it matter to EMP

 

Its not a question of "is the information freely available to me" its "Do I need to know this information" and the sort of things EMP is doing - -they simply don't need to know.

 

If it's not germane, it's not germane. Fine. If maitre d's are spending their afternoons reviewing information which doesn't help them serve guests, more fool them.

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Anyone can Google some names and faces, but Roller is going deeper. "I'm looking for chef's whites and wine glasses," he says. A shot of a guest wearing whites means a chef is probably coming to dinner. Wine glasses signify a potential sommelier (or at least a wine geek). This is just the beginning. If, for example, Roller discovers it's a couple's anniversary, he'll then try to figure out which anniversary. If it's a birthday, he'll welcome a guest, as they walk in the door, with a "Happy Birthday." (Or, if it seems to Roller that a guest prefers to keep a low profile, "I'll let them introduce themselves to me," he says.) Even small details are useful: "If I find out a guest is from Montana, and I know we have a server from there, we'll put them together." Same goes for guests who own jazz clubs, who can be paired with a sommelier that happens to be into jazz. In other words, before customers even step through the door, the restaurant's staff has a pretty good idea of the things it can do to specifically blow their minds.

I think this is pretty much what I described. If Roller is subscribing to search sites, or trying to guess passwords, or using spear phishing to find out birthdays, that's a whole different story.

 

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yes I appreciate that, but the information is not germane to someone serving me a meal.

 

I'm guessing I could find out lots of things about lots of people online - especially if I'm willing to spend 50 bucks. I don't. It simply doesn't matter to me where Sneak went to law school, nor does it matter to EMP

 

Its not a question of "is the information freely available to me" its "Do I need to know this information" and the sort of things EMP is doing - -they simply don't need to know.

If it's not germane, it's not germane. Fine. If maitre d's are spending their afternoons reviewing information which doesn't help them serve guests, more fool them.

 

The problem is, THEY think it's germane, and I think it's an invasion of privacy.

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Anyone can Google some names and faces, but Roller is going deeper. "I'm looking for chef's whites and wine glasses," he says. A shot of a guest wearing whites means a chef is probably coming to dinner. Wine glasses signify a potential sommelier (or at least a wine geek). This is just the beginning. If, for example, Roller discovers it's a couple's anniversary, he'll then try to figure out which anniversary. If it's a birthday, he'll welcome a guest, as they walk in the door, with a "Happy Birthday." (Or, if it seems to Roller that a guest prefers to keep a low profile, "I'll let them introduce themselves to me," he says.) Even small details are useful: "If I find out a guest is from Montana, and I know we have a server from there, we'll put them together." Same goes for guests who own jazz clubs, who can be paired with a sommelier that happens to be into jazz. In other words, before customers even step through the door, the restaurant's staff has a pretty good idea of the things it can do to specifically blow their minds.

I think this is pretty much what I described. If Roller is subscribing to search sites, or trying to guess passwords, or using spear phishing to find out birthdays, that's a whole different story.

 

 

 

You should know what spear phishing is. Pshaw!

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yes I appreciate that, but the information is not germane to someone serving me a meal.

 

I'm guessing I could find out lots of things about lots of people online - especially if I'm willing to spend 50 bucks. I don't. It simply doesn't matter to me where Sneak went to law school, nor does it matter to EMP

 

Its not a question of "is the information freely available to me" its "Do I need to know this information" and the sort of things EMP is doing - -they simply don't need to know.

If it's not germane, it's not germane. Fine. If maitre d's are spending their afternoons reviewing information which doesn't help them serve guests, more fool them.

 

The problem is, THEY think it's germane, and I think it's an invasion of privacy.

 

 

I am going to have a standing objection to the idea that something AB placed in the public domain is private.

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I was responding to AB, who was specifically talking about his LinkedIn profile.

 

I doubt that a maitre d' is going to find the bare information about your career germane. I mean, it's not like you're wearing "chef's whites" in the firm's picture.

 

ETA: Am I seeing things? I thought Sneak just posted, it's not about AB, it's about me?

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My fiancée and I were debating recently whether, from what I have put online, strangers could figure out who she is. I'm now very tempted to reserve EMP for her birthday (it's within the next few months) and see what they'll figure out. I'm overdue for a re-visit there, so heck, why not?

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while wilfrid is clearly right that information voluntarily put on-line isn't private I don't think it's unreasonable to think that a linkedin profile or a firm bio is a part of doing business and it's wrong to put it to non-business use, and eating at EMP is not a part of the business use that's intended when you put your info on line.

 

also the same action can be legal, predictable, creepy and inappropriate.

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