Eleven Madison Park

[prasantrin]

When I was growing up, we had many vegetable-free meals. But never a meal without some kind of animal flesh. 

[Wilfrid]

Like Dan Barber’s demonstration that he could make a cripplingly expensive tasting menu out of garbage, I don’t think this has anything to do with anything.

Just an aesthetic which maybe will work for him.

[Diancecht]

some of you might find these of interest 

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[Wilfrid]

Does she also wash dishes?

[rozrapp]

We were often recipients of Christine’s talents. This is a birthday card for me. Her inspiration for the painting and the message inside: My blog, The Wizard of Roz.

[Wilfrid]

That is nice.

[small h]

I have no idea how accurate this is, but oof! pretty damning.

https://www.businessinsider.com/eleven-madison-park-vegan-labor-shortage-chaos-2022-6?utmSource=twitter&utmContent=referral&utmTerm=topbar&referrer=twitter

[joethefoodie]

See how vegans ruin it for everyone!  

 

Kidding, kidding.

 

[small h]

It's not the vegans, apparently! It's the people who insist on cooking for the vegans. $5 says approximately 0% of EMP's customers are vegan. (I'm prepared to lose $5. But I'm also prepared to win $5.)

[Wilfrid]

I agree. As a very broad generalization, veganism tends to be one component in a set of of values that doesn’t include conspicuous consumption.

[splinky]

https://robbreport.com/food-drink/dining/eleven-madison-park-mess-1234692693/?fbclid=IwAR25wQhy5zUmnSBP79qiW2F1tXNkHJxsvsvNxsl0zsrzWym9yOyH_yJ0LUs

[Neocon maudit]

I don't want to see Humm fail, and I don't believe vegan restaurants can't by definition achieve ⋆⋆⋆ qualité. But everything about EMP's post-pandemic pivot to veganism reeked of hubris and doom. [And it's not as if he were sailing into uncharted seas, despite the comparison to Apollo 11: Passard's experiences at L'Arpège should have given him an idea how difficult this could be.]

If Humm is preoccupied with the celebrity chef circuit, I wonder if he's even aware that his kitchen is sourcing their ingredients from Whole Foods…then tossing half of them. And without Jobs in the picture, I don't know how much longer Humm can keep this show running, even as farce.

The best possible outcome now might be for Humm to sell Eleven Madison Park back to Danny Meyer.

[rozrapp]

Was L’Arpège strictly vegan? Or was it vegetarian?  I’m using the past tense because I gather that Passard abandoned whichever it was and reintroduced meat and fish. 

From our many experiences having the vegetarian versions of Humm’s menus (each season, we had the regular menu first and then the vegetarian), they were truly delicious, especially in spring and summer. I haven’t a clue why he decided to go the strictly vegan route. I have it on good authority that he’s very stubborn, so he probably won’t capitulate as Passard did. Though, who knows? 

The fact that he’s paying his staff so poorly is unforgivable. The staff members we were closest with are no longer there. 

As for his hobnobbing with the very rich and famous, I had felt for some time while we were still dining there that he had become puffed up with his own importance.

 

[Sneakeater]

2 hours ago, rozrapp said:

The fact that he’s paying his staff so poorly is unforgivable.

And inexplicable, since after all he eliminated the service charge for their benefit.

[Neocon maudit]

I'm fairly sure L'Arpège was officially vegetarian, not vegan, but vegan meals were possible.

I looked up Gauthier Soho, who claim to cook without 'any animal produce', but apparently that still permits dairy ['buttered peas' are on the menu, for example]?

Atelier Crenn still serve fish? They announced they would serve 'cultured' meat, but it doesn't seem that's happened yet?