monkeymay Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 I love the actors, the sets, the muck, the story... And I love HBO ON Demand. Jane had the best lines in this week's episode. When asked about her days as a scout riding with Custer, she answers, "Custer was a cunt.' And this one: "Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live." Brilliant. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mongo_jones Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 i will watch all the episodes this season but i doubt i will mourn it being the last. there are good lines every once in a while, and i will miss swearengen and farnum, but this show disappeared up its own arse halfway through the first season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
monkeymay Posted June 14, 2006 Author Share Posted June 14, 2006 there are good lines every once in a while, and i will miss swearengen and farnum, but this show disappeared up its own arse halfway through the first season. Really? Why do you think that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mongo_jones Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 there's just not a whole lot to it other than the pleasure of the language. yes, the old west was dirty, confusing and unromantic--i know, i've seen "mccabe and mrs. miller". i find some of the performances to be downright ludicrous, especially those of olyphaunt, weigert and boothe. olyphaunt's gone through 2 seasons now like he's auditioning to prove he can do "tightly wound". plus the show lost its amoral edge when swearengen went from being an utter bastard to developing a heart of progressively less dull gold in the middle of season one. still, i do enjoy the swearing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jaymes Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 ...still, i do enjoy the swearing. Yes. It really cuts down on the need for a thesarus. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
monkeymay Posted June 14, 2006 Author Share Posted June 14, 2006 Well, I don't know about you, but 'limp dick cocksucker' is applicable to so many things... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Jaymes Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 Well, I don't know about you, but 'limp dick cocksucker' is applicable to so many things... I've found I don't use that term quite so much since the divorce. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ron Johnson Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 I love the show. Really, I can't find much fault with it at all. The dialogue is priceless, the set and costumes are excellent, the characters are actually developed, and the acting is superb. Ian McShane is a badass. I am so pissed at HBO for not renewing this series. Thank goodness the Wire comes back in January, another great series. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jinmyo Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 there's just not a whole lot to it other than the pleasure of the language. yes, the old west was dirty, confusing and unromantic--i know, i've seen "mccabe and mrs. miller". i find some of the performances to be downright ludicrous, especially those of olyphaunt, weigert and boothe. olyphaunt's gone through 2 seasons now like he's auditioning to prove he can do "tightly wound". plus the show lost its amoral edge when swearengen went from being an utter bastard to developing a heart of progressively less dull gold in the middle of season one. still, i do enjoy the swearing. Mongo, the entire point of the series is the development of shared community away from raw individualism and self-interest. Swearengen's character arc is not towards a heart of gold but depicting the inseparability of self-interest from the good of the community as a whole, something that Swearengen understands far ahead of others. Swearengen: "If we get this thing off the ground, I will be without peer robbin' these f**kers blind. But I don't want the founding document recording a f**king bribe." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mongo_jones Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 like i said, lost that amoral edge. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jinmyo Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 Never was amoral. Anyway, if you don't like it then you don't. As for myself, let animals, drunks, and sundries be cleared from my lane of passage towards the next episode. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mongo_jones Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 oh, i like it enough to watch. don't love it, and won't miss it overmuch--not unless this season is great. it is much better than "rome". now if the fans of "deadwood" are also fans of "rome" then i will develop a theory. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Daisy Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 I love Deadwood. I like the writing, and I think Ian McShane is turning in one of the best performances I have ever seen. It's a much better show than Rome, agreed, but I enjoyed that. All that treachery,intrigue and perversion---what's not to like? So what's your theory? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mongo_jones Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 don't have one yet. yes, swearengen and e.b farnum are amazing characters (the latter is now my favourite). and some of the minor characters are great too (merrick, utter, richardson, ellsworth). but far too many of the other characters just grate on me now and the show as a whole seems to be trying to hard to be all the things people like about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jinmyo Posted June 14, 2006 Share Posted June 14, 2006 I thought Rome was okay. Far better than the mini-series that was on one of the networks around the same time and basically, I'll watch most things about ancient Greece and Rome with some interest. I would prefer a full fourth season to the two movies but I do want the series to conclude. Just with, you know, a conclusion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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