New York Times

[MitchW]

I guess Luke Fortney is now writing for the Times?  And just as important as all of his writing for eater.

Is New York Becoming the City That Sleeps

Edited April 19 by MitchW

[Wilfrid]

By coincidence, I saw a statistic this morning that 53% of events at NYC nightclubs go beyond 3am compared with 70% ten years ago.

 

[Orik]

You have to live on St. Mark's to appreciate the total nightlife collapse. 

[Wilfrid]

Nobody out there late?

[MitchW]

20 hours ago, Orik said:

You have to live on St. Mark's to appreciate the total nightlife collapse. 

I think some of that sort of nightlife moved south of Delancey.  Or at least south of Houston.

 

 

[Orik]

12 hours ago, Wilfrid said:

Nobody out there late?

Crowded bars and sidewalks are now weekends only, weather permitting. The crazy block between 1st and A Cuomo had to personally shut down during covid now has three high end sushi places, and a cheap one, a pizza from some Chicago michelin ** operation, and only a couple of bars left. Holiday doesn't spill singing drunks into the street at 4am either. Heaven Can Wait is gone and I think is turning into a bar, Baker Falls was kicked out of the Pyramid space and maybe is operating downtown now, I'm not sure. Who even remembers Avenue B?
 

32 minutes ago, MitchW said:

I think some of that sort of nightlife moved south of Delancey.  Or at least south of Houston.

When it moves it is largely replacing existing venues (see Baker Falls), not creating new ones, and the community board put a hex on the area - initially centered on Ludlow and Rivington but most recently trying to push back on Dimes Square:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/14/dining/dimes-square.html

[Orik]

p.s. I did this for the community board recently - the dark red is at 50% of peak noise complaints from 10 years ago. Bars and clubs are now 6% of complaints, where NYCHA+neighbor+school etc. are 25%

[small h]

34 minutes ago, Orik said:

Holiday doesn't spill singing drunks into the street at 4am either.

New York is dead.

[MitchW]

1 hour ago, Orik said:

Baker Falls was kicked out of the Pyramid space and maybe is operating downtown now

Yes, in the old Rockwood Music Hall space.

1 hour ago, Orik said:

When it moves it is largely replacing existing venues (see Baker Falls), not creating new ones, and the community board put a hex on the area - initially centered on Ludlow and Rivington but most recently trying to push back on Dimes Square:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/03/14/dining/dimes-square.html

Yep - totally familiar with that push back. I think open streets (for Canal) was recently approved for a much shorter period:  3:00pm-10:00pm, Thursday through Sunday, from April 26 through October 31. 

[Wilfrid]

I remember getting thrown out of Rockwood. Not just me. A crowd of us were there to see a band we knew and we would not keep quiet during the rather solemn solo singer-songwriter preceding them. The band got thrown out too.

[Diancecht]

On 4/19/2025 at 6:00 AM, Orik said:

p.s. I did this for the community board recently - the dark red is at 50% of peak noise complaints from 10 years ago. Bars and clubs are now 6% of complaints, where NYCHA+neighbor+school etc. are 25%

i just discovered nyc cb2’s youtube channel. this link showcases a committee meeting on outdoor dining.