Mitchell101 Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 Weathervanes by Jason Isbell and the 400 Unit. I’ll say he is the best songwriter working today and his songs will be covered long after he’s done. There are no fewer than 6 great songs on this album. King Of Oklahoma is my current fave and one of the saddest songs I’ve heard since 2 other Isbell songs (Elephant and If We Were Vampires) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneakeater Posted September 6, 2023 Share Posted September 6, 2023 It's sort of funny -- Alanis would have said "ironic" -- that the Rolling Stones promote a song that goes "don't get angry with me" with a video that gets me for one pretty angry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollywood10 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 The video has a reimagined Sunset Boulevard harkening back to the days when every group or artist wanted their own billboard on the street. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneakeater Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 The video harkens back to the days when the Stones weren't 80 or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollywood10 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 So does the song. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneakeater Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 The lyric is contentless. But the video is vampiric. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchW Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 17 hours ago, Sneakeater said: It's sort of funny -- Alanis would have said "ironic" -- that the Rolling Stones promote a song that goes "don't get angry with me" with a video that gets me for one pretty angry. If that gets you "pretty angry," you gotta learn to: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneakeater Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 (edited) What inoffensive way is there to take the use of Sydney Sweeney in that video? (And not just on grounds of sexism, either: the attempt to create a fiction that Young People respond to The Stones.) Edited September 7, 2023 by Sneakeater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneakeater Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 (edited) If pop culture isn't worth thinking about seriously, it isn't worth attending to, right? Edited September 7, 2023 by Sneakeater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneakeater Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 (edited) Also, how do you not get pissed off at The Stones' attempt to conceal that they have physical corpereal bodies that have aged? THAT'S just pathetic. Edited September 7, 2023 by Sneakeater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MitchW Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 I find that there are more important things for me to be aggravated about. No one is telling you to look at that video, or buy that record. And since when have attempts to conceal our physical bodies all of a sudden become so pathetic? People have been doing that since the beginning of time. Maybe you haven't noticed tattoos? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
small h Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 Are we 100% that's a video and not a car commercial? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneakeater Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 1 hour ago, MitchW said: I find that there are more important things for me to be aggravated about. Wait are you saying you don't have an infinite capacity to be aggravated? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilfrid Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 I'm going to have to watch it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilfrid Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 I gave up when she started playing air guitar. Is it meant to be ironic? I think it would take me about 10 minutes to come up with an alternative concept that made some use of her acting skills. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneakeater Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 (edited) Thinking it over, what pisses me off about that video is that it isn't particularly about the song, and it de-ages the Stones for no reason other than not to show them as they are now. Instead of having anything to do with the song, all the video shows is this Hot Young Woman writhing in response to The Stones -- clearly directed at an audience of Dirty Old Men who cherish the illusion that The Stones (and I guess by extension they) can still elicit such responses. Since as The TImes pointed out today, Actual Young People barely know who The Rolling Stones are. Edited September 8, 2023 by Sneakeater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneakeater Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 1 minute ago, Wilfrid said: Is it meant to be ironic? If it were 1968 it would have been meant to be ironic. That's beyond them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilfrid Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 I would advise Dirty Old Men that there are plenty of opportunities to admire Sydney plus her acting, minus the Stones. (I mean, she's actually really good.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneakeater Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 I'm surprised you noticed there were other actors in that show. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wilfrid Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 That tells you something. (In truth, a bunch of good performances, including of course the sadly late Angus Cloud.) Also, why "Hackney Diamonds"? None of them (alive or dead) from Hackney. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneakeater Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 The Times also made THAT point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneakeater Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Sneakeater said: If it were 1968 it would have been meant to be ironic. That's beyond them now. I mean obviously the only reason this pisses me off so is that they used to be so great. (Including so SMART.) Edited September 7, 2023 by Sneakeater Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sneakeater Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 Tangentially relevant at best, but I can't believe I never saw this one. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hollywood10 Posted September 7, 2023 Share Posted September 7, 2023 1 hour ago, Wilfrid said: Also, why "Hackney Diamonds"? None of them (alive or dead) from Hackney. The name, Jagger told the audience, is London slang for shards of glass: “It's like when you get your windscreen broken on a Saturday night in Hackney and all the bits go on the street,” he quipped. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
backyardchef Posted September 14, 2023 Share Posted September 14, 2023 (edited) I thought Hackney Diamonds was their tongue in cheek ironic title play on the hackneyed, tired tropes that they abuse on their embarrassingly limp, retread and increasingly formulaic recent recordings. Oy are they tedious and just plain terrible now. Edited September 14, 2023 by backyardchef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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